LDA Games/Making Super DX-Ball 2 [Archive]

wildgoosespeeder

03-06-2007, 09:51 PM

Michael Welch programmed DX-Ball
LDA Games programmed DX-Ball 2
Michael Welch programmed Super DX-Ball
LDA Games should program Super DX-Ball 2

Get it? LDA Games made a sequal to DX-Ball, so why not Super DX-Ball? A little Particle Fire would make Super DX-Ball 2 look great, won't it? :D

Brian

03-06-2007, 10:00 PM

Why not let Square make the next Mario game, too?

Slade

03-06-2007, 10:01 PM

Why not? Though it would be better for/ by Blitwise:)

Was It Me?

03-06-2007, 10:01 PM

Why not let Square make the next Mario game, too?

Ha... :rolleyes:

wildgoosespeeder

03-06-2007, 10:01 PM

Why not let Square make the next Mario game, too?
:confused:

Slade

03-06-2007, 10:03 PM

It's a joke wildgoosespeeder...get it?:D:D:D

wildgoosespeeder

03-06-2007, 10:05 PM

I dont get jokes. :(

Slade

03-06-2007, 10:08 PM

I dont get jokes. :(

But can you make them? ;) don't worry...

What do you get when you cross a path?
what?
Nothing...really...

ANYWAYS...

wildgoosespeeder

03-06-2007, 10:12 PM

When is the Super DX-Ball update coming out? :confused:

Brian

03-07-2007, 01:18 PM

I really couldn't say for sure. It's probably the next project after we get done with the expansion pack. May, maybe?

blue_moon

03-07-2007, 06:49 PM

Yeah, Super Dx-Ball is Mike W.'s game. Not LTD's. Shouldn't LTD stop copying the names of stuff or game ideas and make one of their own? Based on what I heard. The only. exception. is Pokemon, Mario and some other big hits. I have seen t.hou.sands of each.

wildgoosespeeder

03-07-2007, 08:35 PM

Here's the thing, LDA Games asked for permission from Mike to copy DX-Ball to make DX-Ball 2. So LDA Games will ask for permission again from Mike to make Super DX-Ball 2.

blue_moon

03-07-2007, 08:39 PM

Here's the thing, LDA Games asked for permission from Mike to copy DX-Ball to make DX-Ball 2. So LDA Games will ask for permission again from Mike to make Super DX-Ball 2.
Who knows? Maybe they'll assume he'll say yes. If LDA games is bigger than Blitwise and Mike could care loads less about profit, he'll let them again. But, because its a sequel, attention from the original Super Dx-Ball will be taken away and diverted to Super Dx-Ball 2. Kids in my school are always talking about how they want a sequel to some good game 3 days after the game was released.:shocked:

wildgoosespeeder

03-07-2007, 08:56 PM

Why not BlitWise (at some point)...?
Yeah, why did LDA Games make DX-Ball 2 instead of Mike?

blue_moon

03-07-2007, 08:59 PM

Yeah, why did LDA Games make DX-Ball 2 instead of Mike?
Well, he was probably busy. Or they didn't ask him.

Everlast

03-07-2007, 09:04 PM

I don't get it either, is Square a game company or something?

wildgoosespeeder

03-07-2007, 09:08 PM

Well, he was probably busy. Or they didn't ask him.
Attached is the readme from Super DX-Ball Deluxe. If you scroll down to "Additional Credits:", it clearly says that LDA Games (Seumas McNally) asked permission from Mike to program DX-Ball 2.

blue_moon

03-07-2007, 09:08 PM

I don't get it either, is Square a game company or something?
Square Enix/Square Soft. They made the Final Fantasy series

Slade

03-07-2007, 09:09 PM

I thought it was the Square Circle Co. he was talking about....

blue_moon

03-07-2007, 09:17 PM

I thought it was the Square Circle Co. he was talking about....
Is there even a such thing? Well, if Mike W. makes SDXB2, it'd be good. Don't let LTD do it. If you don't want to do it, don't let any one do it. I have now earned the rank of "Confusius the Wise." Psst... Brian... Change my rank to that! JK.

wildgoosespeeder

03-07-2007, 09:20 PM

Do you think they should join to be one company?
How about gaming magazine ads? It would probably promote Blitwise Productions...

blue_moon

03-07-2007, 09:28 PM

Do you think they should join to be one company?
No..

Slade

03-07-2007, 09:31 PM

Is there even a such thing? Well, if Mike W. makes SDXB2, it'd be good. Don't let LTD do it. If you don't want to do it, don't let any one do it. I have now earned the rank of "Confusius the Wise." Psst... Brian... Change my rank to that! JK.

Square Circle Co. made Heli 1,2, and 3.

Brian

03-07-2007, 10:27 PM

Yes, LDA had permission from Mike to make DX Ball2. There was, I understand, some sort of collaboration going on, but there is not exactly the same relationship now that there was then. That's all that needs to be said on the matter.

wildgoosespeeder

03-08-2007, 12:26 AM

Do you think a little Particle Fire would make the possible title Super DX-Ball 2 look good?

Slade

03-08-2007, 01:03 AM

Do you think a little Particle Fire would make the possible title Super DX-Ball 2 look good?

It's cool:) but what would it mean/why/the reason?

blue_moon

03-08-2007, 06:33 PM

Do you think a little Particle Fire would make the possible title Super DX-Ball 2 look good?
Stop speculating on this. Brian said that "but there is not exactly the same relationship now that there was then".

wildgoosespeeder

03-09-2007, 08:36 PM

Stop speculating on this. Brian said that "but there is not exactly the same relationship now that there was then".

Were talking at least a 5-year development here. LDA Games will not all-of-a-sudden make "Super DX-Ball 2" and quit their current project. And plus I'll probably wait a year to decide to give the poll results to LDA Games to see if they want to make this game. This is all up to the Blitwise Productions Community.

blue_moon

03-09-2007, 08:38 PM

Were talking at least a 5-year development here. LDA Games will not all of a sudden make "Super DX-Ball 2" and quit their current project. And plus I'll probably wait a year to decide to give the poll results to LDA Games to see if they want to make this game. This is all the community's vote.
No, its all Blitwise and LDA Games vote. Blitwise would lose a lot of money letting LDA Games make SDXB2. Plus, "but there is not exactly the same relationship now that there was then". Poll results are one thing, what Mike decideds to do with his money is another.

wildgoosespeeder

03-09-2007, 08:41 PM

Blitwise is not as big as LDA Games... Its not really a big loss for Blitwise if LDA Games programs SDXB2...

blue_moon

03-09-2007, 08:48 PM

Blitwise is not as big as LDA Games... Its not really a big loss for Blitwise if LDA Games programs SDXB2...
Oh really? Here:

> Blitwise made SDXB
> LDA decides to make SDXB2
> SDXB becomes outdated and no longer played (or bought)
> LDA will be making money off of Blitwise's idea
> Blitwise looses all ties to SDXB2 (open source, corny graphics, whatever)
> Blitwise will recieve an occasional member saying "where is SDXB2? I bought it but every time I get a beat the game brick..."
> Overall, why should LDA be getting more money off of something Blitwise made and slow business for Blitiwse. Its like a spear and a sword, both hurt you no matter how you look at it.

wildgoosespeeder

03-09-2007, 08:55 PM

Slade

03-09-2007, 08:58 PM

I agree! Even though SDXB2 isn't out yet:)

blue_moon

03-09-2007, 08:59 PM

Hey, the first of every series is the best and sells a lot more! ;)

IE: The Sims vs. The Sims 2

The Sims better! Long live The Sims! The Sims 2 Sims die too quickly and have stages of life. Boring! :p

So SDXB will be better than SDXB2!
So basically, you're saying that because you think Sims 1 is better than Sims 2 because they don't die as quickly means that SDXB is better than SDXB2. Take Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. Take Pokemon Red and Pokemon Fire Red. Take Ratchet and Clank and Ratchet Deadlocked. Plus, you have some completely large company making, so it'll be bigger and more expandable. There'll be 1000 levels for all we know.

wildgoosespeeder

03-09-2007, 10:10 PM

So basically, you're saying that because you think Sims 1 is better than Sims 2 because they don't die as quickly means that SDXB is better than SDXB2. Take Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. Take Pokemon Red and Pokemon Fire Red. Take Ratchet and Clank and Ratchet Deadlocked. Plus, you have some completely large company making, so it'll be bigger and more expandable. There'll be 1000 levels for all we know.

I never played the Kingdom Hearts games. I did play Pokémon Red, but not Fire Red, but after Ruby and Sapphire, PokéBloks? Abilities? Wierd-named berries? It took the whole purpose away from the original Red and Blue, Yellow, Gold and Silver, and Crystal games. That's when I lost all interest in Pokémon. What are Ratchet and Deadlocked games? Never heard of them!

So here's the bottom line, the more features you add to sequals, the farther away it is from the point of the original game that started it all. Don't get me wrong, I will still buy SDXB2 from LDA Games if it ever comes out and if they make it!

???revived

03-09-2007, 11:40 PM

So when it comes to games, you stray as far right as possible?

I like the stages of life that the Sims 2 has. It makes the game more continuous and have the feeling of actually going somewhere and doing something.

wildgoosespeeder

03-10-2007, 12:47 AM

So when it comes to games, you stray as far right as possible?
If you mean "I do not play the game sequals (Except DX-Ball 2 and The Sims 2 for GCN and GBA).", then yes.

blue_moon

03-10-2007, 01:09 AM

Do you think LDA Games should develop Super DX-Ball 2?
Lets see...

Why not let Square make the next Mario game, too?

Looks like no.

Also, your saying that sequels are never as good as the originals... So why are you pushing so hard for a SDXB2?

???revived

03-10-2007, 01:41 AM

I really don't care that much about the "concept", nor the graphics, nor the sound in games. The only thing I care about really is gameplay, and since most sequels broaden the spectrum of gameplay, I support them...

wildgoosespeeder

03-10-2007, 03:12 PM

Also, your saying that sequels are never as good as the originals... So why are you pushing so hard for a SDXB2?

I say it will be somewhat a hit, kind of like The Sims 2 vs. The Sims. A lot of people go for The Sims than The Sims 2 on The Sims BBS ( http://thesims.ea.com/bbs/ ).

blue_moon

03-10-2007, 03:21 PM

I say it will be somewhat a hit, kind of like The Sims 2 vs. The Sims. A lot of people go for The Sims than The Sims 2 on The Sims BBS ( http://thesims.ea.com/bbs/ ).
And if its a hit (even if its not with you) LDA will be making money off of Blitwise's product. Plus, I don't think there will be too many Super DX Ball buyers nowadays. Half of those who bought/pirated SDXB have no clue who made SDXB, so they'll definetely buy it from LDA. I think your confused on what you want. Lets see:
you: I want SDXB2 from LDA cuz' they made DXB2
you: I don't like sequels
you: Blitiwse won't lose money
you: Can we have a SDXB2 from LDA cuz' they made it before
you: I still don't like sequels

Also, I'm not making an account on a Sims forum so you can prove your point.

Kaz21

04-09-2007, 01:12 PM

No I don't want a sequel to this from anyone, stick with this one and just update it and make new expansions because think of all the expansion packs wasted if the new one came out. :(

Imposter

04-10-2007, 12:19 AM

Why not let Square make the next Mario game, too?

They did.:rolleyes:

(Mario Hoops: Three on Three)

Scooter

04-10-2007, 05:35 AM

No I don't want a sequel to this from anyone, stick with this one and just update it and make new expansions because think of all the expansion packs wasted if the new one came out. :(

That makes complete sense to me. I agree with it 100%.

Kaz21

04-10-2007, 09:44 AM

blue_moon

04-10-2007, 06:39 PM

If one company copies another it means:
a) the first company is naive
b) the second company lacks the skill to make their own games

Scooter

04-11-2007, 05:45 AM

Good to here, I meen you can do completely new things with an update which still allows the expansion packs that are already made so I do not see why there would be sequels if it is a no storyline game like this but if it was a platform game, rpg etc, that is what sequels are for.
Anyway this is a great game as it is so why would we want a new one with less expansion packs?

Exactly. Just keep making the expansion packs to keep the game fresh and give us new challenges. You don't need a sequel to accomplish that.

Maybe there should be another poll about whether there should be a sequel or an update. I would definitely vote for the update.

Death

04-11-2007, 11:23 PM

they screwed up the original dx ball 2 so my answer is NO!

Kaz21

04-14-2007, 01:35 AM

Exactly. Just keep making the expansion packs to keep the game fresh and give us new challenges. You don't need a sequel to accomplish that.

Maybe there should be another poll about whether there should be a sequel or an update. I would definitely vote for the update.

Yes same, I think updates are much better in a game like this and expansions etc.
Anyway I wouldn't buy Super DX Ball 2 no matter who made it.
Well what else is there to say...

Mike W.

07-31-2007, 01:20 AM

I'd like to write the next DX-Ball game. That being said, I have a lot more I want to do with Super DX-Ball before making a whole new game.

blue_moon

07-31-2007, 10:17 PM

Yes... SDx Ball is still very happy being updated.

chimchar1337piplup

06-10-2009, 12:42 AM

I say no because even though LDA programmed DX-ball 2, the actual programmer of the game died (Seumas McNally). Plus Blitwise is better than LDA so...

Samail

06-10-2009, 02:32 AM

N-N-N-NECROPOST.

But yeah, I'd say the pro-LDA got pwned by a landslide. (And blue_moon is awesome just for putting up with having to debunk those posts for this long.)
Not saying LDA couldn't do a good job, but...

wildgoosespeeder

06-19-2009, 09:39 PM

Wow, how long ago did I make this thread? I didn't remember it! :p

N-N-N-NECROPOST.

Oh, stop that necropost junk. As long as a member follows forum rules and has something good to say about a open dead thread, he's OK. If the member is in it for the post count, then you should be concerned.

Rex Nex

06-19-2009, 10:36 PM

Regardless, its annoying.

DPJ93

07-07-2009, 01:12 PM

I really don't think LDA Games should make the next Super DX-Ball game. Unless Seumas didn't die. But I would still like Mike to be the main developer for it.

Samail

07-07-2009, 07:38 PM

Thanks for the bump and enabling me to see this.

Oh, stop that necropost junk. As long as a member follows forum rules and has something good to say about a open dead thread, he's OK. If the member is in it for the post count, then you should be concerned.

goose, just because I use that doesn't mean I'm bashing the fact that the post was late.
If you had paid attention to the many times I discuss bumping and necro-posting, you'd have noticed that I have defended those who have relevant material to add.