Box Art and Upcoming Products

[Brian]

Some of you may have gleaned from asides that I've made that we've been working on our CD orders, basically since before this forum started. I posted a few pictures of the interim product that we've been sending, and which we will continue to send. However, our work on Pocket Tanks has born fruit, and I'm ready to release some info, as well as getting your opinions.

Mike and I have discussed several ideas on how to market this new package, chief among them being a "Collector's Edition", which would come out in the near future. Purchasing this Collector's Edition would get you Pocket Tanks Deluxe and all the weapon packs up to that time (200 weapons in all). This would be burned onto a CD and put in a slimline DVD case, then mailed to you. More information and possibly tweaking of features may be forthcoming in the next few months, but here's some pictures of the package as it stands. Click on the links below the thumbs for full sized pictures.

http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_front_small.png
Front of Box (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_front.png)


http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_back_small.png
Back of Box (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_back.png)


http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/spines_bigsmall_small.png
Box Spines (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/spines_bigsmall.png)


http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_inside_small.png
CD in Box (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_inside.png)


We think this will be a really attractive offer for new customers, and possibly for longtime fans as well. In addition, it will make a great gift.

So, what do you guys think? Anyone here interested in this kind of thing?

[Zwaken]

THAT WOULD BE SWEET! About How much would it cost? I NEED IT!

Fantastic artwork by the way. I'll try to buy it as soon as it comes out, even though I have the deluxe version :)

[Was It Me?]

That looks really cool. You guys did a very professional job on it.

I agree that it would be very attractive to new customers, and perhaps old ones too. Also, it would be a great way to give it as a gift since it's a little hard to give the download version. ;)

[Zwaken]

Also, it is possible that you could put it in stores now. That would help sales I'd think.

I can imagine now, going into Gamestop and seeing Pocket Tanks on the walls. It's truely a beautiful site.

[blue_moon]

Cool with a K-E-W-L! I might buy it. I voted I definetly will, but thats if its in stores. EVERYTHING IS COOL!

[jstrok7]

Wow, really nice !
And Brian, you said 200 weapons .
There are now 165 weapons overall excluding 2 new weapons packs, so does that mean that after Blitwise releas 2 new weapons pack that it will release one more pack with 15 weapons !

[Everlast]

Very nice, I love the art work. Is this what you get in the mail if you select "CD" on the mail-in order form. If so I might have to look into that. :)

[???revived]

Red is an inferior colour. Blue would've been better.

Otherwise, this is made of a lot of win...

[Zwaken]

Color doesn't really matter when IT LOOKS THAT COOL!!! I almost put it up as my background, but then decided to make one.

[Black Magic]

Hmmm... I might get it. It all depends if you could download more weapons as you would in the deluxe version. Then again I'd probably get it anyways...

[Brian]

To answer some questions and clear up misconceptions.

This wouldn't be available at your local Target, for instance. Not yet. We just recently got this product, and we're hoping to stock it on some businesses in our area that are interested. Small, privately owned shops. Dealing with a chain is a big step that we are eager to look into, but that will have to wait several months at least.

Second, yes, there will be one more 15 pack expansion that will be included in the Collector's edition.

Third, this is not the product that is currently being sent out for the Games on CD option. For one thing, the games on cd often contains files other than Pocket Tanks. For a look at the package that is offered, check here (http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84). Mike was thinking about offering a "Boxed version" option for Pocket Tanks, which would be similar to the GoCD, but with the box and CD art.

In answer to Black Magic's question, you would still be able to download more weapons as they become available...this is basically a cool means of having a backup to your Pocket Tanks installer.

[Zwaken]

Second, yes, there will be one more 15 pack expansion that will be included in the Collector's edition.

Wait...A pack that will only be released in the Collector's edition?

[Brian]

I didn't say that.

[Zwaken]

Alright, just making sure.

[The Yateslander]

this is soo great... as always I hope Mike at CTSP will be interested in a mac cd version! :)

[Black Magic]

Okay, then the minute that this product is available in a place I know little will stop me from getting it.

[Pyrobellum]

Hm... I don't know quite what to say about the artwork... It seems like something I might initially turn down as "too young" if I saw it, say, at target. Maybe something like the tank you see on the start-up screen. I think that's a little more recognizeable. I would buy this, depending on the cost. Also, would we have to launch pocket tanks from that CD?

[Slade]

Hm... I don't know quite what to say about the artwork... It seems like something I might initially turn down as "too young" if I saw it, say, at target. Maybe something like the tank you see on the start-up screen. I think that's a little more recognizeable. I would buy this, depending on the cost. Also, would we have to launch pocket tanks from that CD?

I might look 'too young' (I know what you mean) but it still is pretty pro. I like it.

[blue_moon]

*checks closet* Okay, so I have my battering ram, bazooka, machine gun, my other battering ram and a plane ticket to NewYork. Now, how am I going to get a battering ram on a plane?

That was my reinactment of the day this is released in local stores.

[Brian]

No, you wouldn't have to play it from the CD, though Mike was going to make a special installer that would install the game and all the packs automatically to the same place, which would autorun when you put the CD in your drive.

[VoLAN]

COOL! I can't sleep, i always think about this CD. You are Genius! I want it!
Tell me cost please and date

[nickerdoodle]

Some of you may have gleaned from asides that I've made that we've been working on our CD orders, basically since before this forum started. I posted a few pictures of the interim product that we've been sending, and which we will continue to send. However, our work on Pocket Tanks has born fruit, and I'm ready to release some info, as well as getting your opinions.

Mike and I have discussed several ideas on how to market this new package, chief among them being a "Collector's Edition", which would come out in the near future. Purchasing this Collector's Edition would get you Pocket Tanks Deluxe and all the weapon packs up to that time (200 weapons in all). This would be burned onto a CD and put in a slimline DVD case, then mailed to you. More information and possibly tweaking of features may be forthcoming in the next few months, but here's some pictures of the package as it stands. Click on the links below the thumbs for full sized pictures.

http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_front_small.png
Front of Box (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_front.png)


http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_back_small.png
Back of Box (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_back.png)


http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/spines_bigsmall_small.png
Box Spines (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/spines_bigsmall.png)


http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_inside_small.png
CD in Box (http://www.blitwise.com/forum_pics/box_art/box_inside.png)

We think this will be a really attractive offer for new customers, and possibly for longtime fans as well. In addition, it will make a great gift.

So, what do you guys think? Anyone here interested in this kind of thing?


how much would it be???

[Everlast]

I would guess $25 - $35. Hey Brian I was also wondering if it comes with a booklet.

[Zwaken]

Heh...that would be sweet.

[Brian]

At the moment, there's no booklet. It may be something we decide to put in there, but the more we put in, the more it costs to ship, so it's a balancing game at the moment.

[Everlast]

This just occured to me, that I have never seen a game for PC in that kind of box. It's usually one of those big/medium cardboard boxes. The box style that you have created I always see for game systems, but never a PC. I think you should consider making one of those small square plastic cases, that are usually just big enough to hold the CD. But those are usually just the $10 games, but I would guess they'd be cheaper to ship and stuff though. Anyway I just thought I would throw in some thoughts there. :)

[Was It Me?]

The last couple of games I've bought in the past year or so have been in that kind of box. The "DVD case" type...

[Slade]

DVD case/ps2 case. I think the present case model would look cooler to have in my game library...

[Brian]

Those CD jewel cases are often subject to cracking and breaking. Also, the DVD case makes inserting art such as we have done much easier.

[Pyrobellum]

Well that's good... Although I'm getting really confused. Why does everybody have a new avatar?

[Zwaken]

I was wondering the same, even though I have a new avatar...it's only my 3rd scince I joined, and I joined way back.

[Was It Me?]

I joined the same day as you Zwaken, and this is my second avatar aside from a very brief stint with the cheese (which was for testing anyway), and when I added the hat to the fish for a week or so. ;)

[blue_moon]

Yeah, I wish I could find my school project and post it here. I made an animation for a book report. That morning I got shoved in a locker with the DVD in my pocket. The case cracked and one shard went about an inch into my skin. I got the day off. And the teacher didn't want blood on a project. Those jewel cases crack to easy.

[Xap]

This pocket tanks box looks very nice - it will be very attracting to customers.:)
Reminds me a bit of the worms box - it has a nice fresh cartton feel to it.

[blue_moon]

This pocket tanks box looks very nice - it will be very attracting to customers.:)
Reminds me a bit of the worms box - it has a nice fresh cartton feel to it.

A carton feel? What the sitar does that mean?

[jstrok7]

He probably wanted to say cartoon feel . ;)

[ponchato]

I think the "cartoon" feel makes it look kinda like...uh... i dunno. cant wait till it comes out though.

[Xap]

Yes, I did mean to say "cartoon".;)

[blue_moon]

Yes, I did mean to say "cartoon".;)
Are you sure? I mean, carton feelings are pretty common. Yeah, it is cartoony. I'td think it would be better in 3D.

[Pyrobellum]

Hm. Why is one case bigger than the other?

[VoLAN]

Please let me know, when i can buy Pocket tanks collector's edition

[Brimstone]

We might have to wait a while at least to the new weapon pack comes out.

Other than that it looks pretty good, the time of art style makes me think of the terrain in worms.

[matt198992]

brian, what will be the prices? and what if i all ready have the deluxe and all expansions? will i have to re-buy them all?

[blue_moon]

Why is one case bigger than the other?

[Everlast]

I was wondering the same thing. Mabye there experimenting to see which one will be cheaper to ship and stuff.

[Brian]

We don't have any set prices yet. At the moment, owning the Deluxe version doesn't affect the price of the Collector's Edition. Finally, one box is a slim line,which will be given to anyone who orders via the internet, the other is a full sized DVD case which will be distributed to a small number of our local businesses.

[Slade]

I was wondering the same thing. Mabye there experimenting to see which one will be cheaper to ship and stuff.

To find the best outcome...

[blue_moon]

We don't have any set prices yet. At the moment, owning the Deluxe version doesn't affect the price of the Collector's Edition. Finally, one box is a slim line,which will be given to anyone who orders via the internet, the other is a full sized DVD case which will be distributed to a small number of our local businesses.
You have local businesses? Well, the slim line is cool, but the DVD case is unique too, plus it'd go well in my game collection. I'll just get both.:D

[Brian]

What I meant by "Our local businesses" was businesses in OUR local area. I wanted to clarify that it would not be YOUR local businesses. :)

We were planning on sending out the slim line to any people who ordered through the website, mainly for shipping cost reasons, but it may not be unreasonable to have a full sized box option for those who want it, maybe for a dollar more to cover increased costs. I'll bring it up with Mike.

[Slade]

sounds cool:)

[matt198992]

great. thanks ^_^

[VoLAN]

Does Pocket tanks collector's edition have fix bug with weapon shop repeating and randomization?:confused:
I dont have PT and i want to buy PT Collector's Edition without this bug (when play same game many times again);) .
How hard to speak English :scared:

[Brian]

I will use my powers to look into the future...wait...sorry...don't have those.

Likely, yes. Mike said, as I mentioned elsewhere several times, that he believes he knows what is causing the problem that a few people are experiencing, and thus, he is likely to fix it (if it is something that can be fixed on our end) in the next update, which is likely to come before the Collector's Edition comes out.

[VoLAN]

Thanks Brian! I'm happy now:) Waiting for PT CE

[VoLAN]

When i buy PT CE can i download next PT updates for free? (not weapons, updates only)

[Brian]

Yes, updates will continue to be free of charge. Your order of the CE would go into our database as a PT Deluxe order, granting you support for it.

[Everlast]

Will the CE have the awaited internet with it?

[VoLAN]

You mean online/LAN mode?

[blue_moon]

Possibly. I know TechStuf wants to roll, knead and spin the dough with me one-on-one.

[Brian]

I think Mike does want to hold off on the Collector's Edition until we have workable netplay, but I couldn't say specifically.

[VoLAN]

Ooo, its too long time(((

[wildgoosespeeder]

I think for a 3.05 MB game installer would be pointless to put on a 700 MB CD... The boxart looks nice, but it would be a waste of time and money to burn on CD.

[Was It Me?]

What do you want them to put it on then... a floppy?! :rolleyes:

[blue_moon]

I guess so. CDs are cheap. Some DVDs are even cheaper. I bout 50 DVD-Rs for 10 bucks. Not a waste.

[wildgoosespeeder]

What do you want them to put it on then... a floppy?! :rolleyes:

How about just a download. :anirolleyes:

[Was It Me?]

Not much of a "Collector's Edition" then...

[blue_moon]

How about just a download. :anirolleyes:
Here we go... The reason its a collector's edition is because it in a case! You can't download a CD case. So far all of your input aside from a few suggestions (ie: lets give LDA games all of blitwise's rights!) have defeated the purpose of Blitwise or is going against a good idea. May I recite:
"I guess so. CDs are cheap. Some DVDs are even cheaper. I bout 50 DVD-Rs for 10 bucks. Not a waste."- a few posts down

[Was It Me?]

Essentially what I said...

[blue_moon]

Essentially what I said...
Its the same but not quite, I have more oomph.

[Everlast]

Mabye Mike can just make a ton of new features to fill up the extra space. :D

[blue_moon]

Mabye Mike can just make a ton of new features to fill up the extra space. :D
Maybe there could be more weapons that are pathetically bad but make it harder to get... Wait. Everlast, that was your worst idea ever. Filling 4.7 GB on a DVD-R with useless junk to upload to your computer is like hitting it with a rock.

[Everlast]

Not a 4.7gb. A 700mb.

[VoLAN]

Brian say that it was a CD (700 Mb). 1 installer, 200 weapons, new version of PT (1.1a maybe?)

[blue_moon]

Sorry. Filling 700 MB on a CD with useless junk to upload to your computer is like hitting it with a rock. Dude, no matter what, there will be wasted space. Who cares? We aren't cutting down trees, its all digital. Volan, your idea is great but Brian said that there would be enough weapons to bring the weapons up to 200. Thats 5. 1.1a is already out, or its just 1.1. Having an installer (not much), 5 weapons (1 MB or less), and Pocket Tanks 1.1(a) will be no more than 50 MB. Whats Mike going to put on? Weapons that didn't make the cut?

[VoLAN]

What you want? Free porn film on free-space of CD?

[blue_moon]

Sorry. Filling 700 MB on a CD with useless junk toupload to your computer is like hitting it with a rock. Dude, no matter what, there will be wasted space. Who cares? We aren't cutting down trees, its all digital. Volan, your idea is great but Brian said that there would be enough weapons to bring the weapons up to 200. Thats 5. 1.1a is already out, or its just 1.1. Having an installer (not much), 5 weapons (1 MB or less), and Pocket Tanks 1.1(a) will be no more than 50 MB. Whats Mike going to put on? Weapons that didn't make the cut?
I unbolded something and bolded another thing VoLAN. Yeah, I know the C in English story. Its a shame that there is no translator for forums. Like, being able to set it to your own language.

[VoLAN]

OK, now i see (Dude, no matter what, there will be wasted space. Who cares?)

[blue_moon]

Yeah, every one has a habit of skipping my messages until the part they can:
use against me
derive false meaning
or in Techstuf's case, call me an idiot

[VoLAN]

Maybe it's better Mini-CD (~200Mb) than CD

[blue_moon]

Maybe it's better Mini-CD (~200Mb) than CD
Only if they are cheaper.

[VoLAN]

Less space - less cost

[Everlast]

Can you even buy a CD that has less than 700mb?

[jstrok7]

Can you even buy a CD that has less than 700mb?

Yes you can . (At least here in Croatia) .

[blue_moon]

I don't know if you can in Massachusetts...

[str1ker]

yah, the mini cds (forgot how much they hold)

[Was It Me?]

Really though, who cares if there's empty space left on the CD? :rolleyes:

[jstrok7]

Really though, who cares if there's empty space left on the CD? :rolleyes:

Yeah, It would be stupid if game was on mini-cd and when I put files on cds, It almost always have much space left ...

[Brian]

We thought about using those mini-CD's, but, believe it or not, they're actually more expensive in the long run, usually, and they don't have as much room for the art. If there's anything else you guys would be interested in seeing on the CD's, let us know! Any ideas you have that make this more collector appealing will be noted, and might even be incorporated.

[jstrok7]

Hmm, maybe a booklet, with guide, weapon list, tips and such things !

[Everlast]

Can you advertise the forums on the box in anyway? Or the Pocket Tanks T-shirts. I have a lot of games that have apparel for the game advertised in the back.

[VoLAN]

I like the idea of a booklet, with guide, weapon list, tips and such things (photo of Brian and Mike;))

[Brian]

Some worthwhile ideas, overall, but ixney on the otophey.

[Was It Me?]

A special "Collectors" weapon (or two) that is/are only available with the Collectors Edition. :P

[Everlast]

I like that idea. :)


ixney on the otophey.

and....what does that mean?

[blue_moon]

I like that idea. :)




and....what does that mean?
Ixney is kind of like Disney... and Otophy is like Photography... So its Disney on Photography?

[???revived]

It's pig latin.

Nix on the photo.

[Everlast]

Oh I get it, I guess I have never seen that typed out.

[Brian]

Ankthey ouyey, evivedrey.

[???revived]

Ouryey elcomewey, rianbey. :P

[VoLAN]

A special "Collectors" weapon (or two) that is/are only available with the Collectors Edition. :P there would be 15 new weapons!

[Zwaken]

Ankthey ouyey, evivedrey.

Ouryey elcomewey, rianbey. :P

Lemme guess...Thank you, Revived. Your welcome, Brian.

And I'm all for the 1 or 2 "collector's weapons"

[Everlast]

I keep thinking that BlitWise should make a weapon that shoots the "BlitWise Globe". (aka Brians avatar)

[VoLAN]

Brian, do you have another photo or art? show us

[blue_moon]

I think thats everything. The front, back, side, disc, all thats missing is the inside, which isn't much; or the top, which is basic too.

[VoLAN]

I started to save money for PT CE.