Lemon????

[yo mama]

what is the point of the weapon "Lemon"? is it just a useless weapon that does 1 damage each time?:confused::confused:

[minmay]

Lemon is, well, a lemon. That's it.

[Samail]

*facepalm*

...Why do so many people have trouble comprehending this?

Yes, it's a dud.

[Rex Nex]

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10071/picard-no-facepalm.jpg

[blissturd]

Actually, it's not a dumb question at all and people keep asking because they want to know. That's one reason people come to forums is to get information.

Allow me to apologize, yo mama, for these forum members here. The only dumb thing here is how they might not comprehend that sometimes people don't have the same knowledge that they do.

As for your question, it was, basically, just a joke. The tank "spits" out a "lemon" at a seemingly completely random angle with slightly random power. It does only 1 point.

[Samail]

Alright, I probably came off a little strong there.
But please keep in mind that the statement that there is no such thing as a dumb question is false.

might not comprehend that sometimes people don't have the same knowledge that they do.

Figured firing the weapon would be sufficient enough. A brand new thread also didn't need creation. New thread also means the search button wasn't touched.

Wasn't completely the question on its own. Mainly the way it was asked that subconsciously irked my patience. (Because many threads have been created already on the same matter. This fact being why I said "...Why do so many people have trouble comprehending this?")

[ekoz]

blissturd, they may have gone off strong, but there is no need or reason to have to apologize on behalf of people. what's their problem is their problem, simple as that.

also, this has been stated a good number of times. plus, it is VERY self explanitory-lemon does nothing. it says it on the website, it says it in the reedme, it says it in the release thread, and it is fairly obvious while playing the game.

while i am not condoning the welcome this new blitter has recieved, i am not saying that he should get a free pass because he has seemingly refused to notice the obviousness of how useless the weapon lemon is.

plus, as most people who join forums should know, they must SEARCH forums before actually making a topic. there are at least 20 threads around here which contemplate the use of lemon, plus minmay's weapon guide, plus a link in rex's signature to a site that contains (at now, half) the weapon descriptions, and magic pack being one of them for the sole purpose of people going there to see what lemon does.

so blissturd, i see your intentions were good, but you must stop turning everything into an argument. it's annoying, and quite obviously irking everyone on this forum. if you must, join another forum to argue.

[blissturd]

I won't do my normal "quote and respond to each sentence" deal because it's unnecessary when that wouldn't be solving anything.
I'm sure you noticed that, guys. We always tend to go around like this and never do any of you prove anything to me. Give it up. lol

My point is...

There will always be someone coming on here making a new thread about something that you may think is common sense or, even worse, just plain "dumb" not to get it.

Time and time again it happens and one or two of you go off on the guy, even if it's just a little bit.

You going off on the guy isn't really going to change the FACT that it keeps happening. You say it yourself that there are like 20 other threads about it. Well, now there are like 21 and as the forums continue, that number WILL increase.

Just answer the "dumb" question and move on. That's what the guy came here for, most likely. And if we're actually cool about it, maybe we have another regular on the forums.

And by the way, just because you join a forum doesn't mean you know that you need to search or check or anything. When I joined, the only reason I did was because I liked Pocket Tanks. I didn't know jack squat about forums.

Quit casting your own thoughts onto other people. Maybe he was like me when he asked that question. He wanted to get an answer without having to search for it any place.

If you think about it. Out of over 150 weapons, not one of them is as close to as completely useless as Lemon. Maybe it does do something that isn't right in front of your nose. Look at Phase Missile. When it came out no one immediately knew what it did.
And, as I recall, we all questioned Lemon just as yo mama did in this thread. Just because someone else made the first thread doesn't mean that no one else can make one about the same thing.

Maybe he just started playing pocket tanks and this is the first forums he has ever joined. Look at the join date. If he is indeed a true beginner then how can you expect him to know or even come to the conclusion that Lemon only does what it does when all the other recent weapons do such really cool stuff.

We all thought it might do something else. He just wasn't here when it happened. Maybe neither were the other 20 guys that posted the same question.

By the way, I know I've said something like this already. I believe it was about Glue, though.


And just to you, ekoz. I'm not "trying" to turn anything into an argument. I'm merely attempting to undo the damage that reply might have caused while making a bit more sense out of things because it seems to me that with responses like that, some of you still don't get what "family friendly" means or, in your case, remembering what it's like to try something completely new. I just think your biggest problem, according to your reply, is that you assume that everyone who joins a forum knows things that they might not know. And even if they did know, why search when you can just ask someone? Seriously, you never asked someone where something is or what something does in your life that you could have just found out on your own? Of course you have. And that's all yo mama did. I don't see anything wrong with a) not knowing or b) asking for help.

That's enough for me for now.

[Samail]

I won't do my normal "quote and respond to each sentence" deal because it's unnecessary when that wouldn't be solving anything.
I'm sure you noticed that, guys. We always tend to go around like this and never do any of you prove anything to me. Give it up. lol

My point is...

There will always be someone coming on here making a new thread about something that you may think is common sense or, even worse, just plain "dumb" not to get it.

Time and time again it happens and one or two of you go off on the guy, even if it's just a little bit.

You going off on the guy isn't really going to change the FACT that it keeps happening. You say it yourself that there are like 20 other threads about it. Well, now there are like 21 and as the forums continue, that number WILL increase.

Just answer the "dumb" question and move on. That's what the guy came here for, most likely. And if we're actually cool about it, maybe we have another regular on the forums.

And by the way, just because you join a forum doesn't mean you know that you need to search or check or anything. When I joined, the only reason I did was because I liked Pocket Tanks. I didn't know jack squat about forums.

Quit casting your own thoughts onto other people. Maybe he was like me when he asked that question. He wanted to get an answer without having to search for it any place.

If you think about it. Out of over 150 weapons, not one of them is as close to as completely useless as Lemon. Maybe it does do something that isn't right in front of your nose. Look at Phase Missile. When it came out no one immediately knew what it did.
And, as I recall, we all questioned Lemon just as yo mama did in this thread. Just because someone else made the first thread doesn't mean that no one else can make one about the same thing.

Maybe he just started playing pocket tanks and this is the first forums he has ever joined. Look at the join date. If he is indeed a true beginner then how can you expect him to know or even come to the conclusion that Lemon only does what it does when all the other recent weapons do such really cool stuff.

We all thought it might do something else. He just wasn't here when it happened. Maybe neither were the other 20 guys that posted the same question.

By the way, I know I've said something like this already. I believe it was about Glue, though.


And just to you, ekoz. I'm not "trying" to turn anything into an argument. I'm merely attempting to undo the damage that reply might have caused while making a bit more sense out of things because it seems to me that with responses like that, some of you still don't get what "family friendly" means or, in your case, remembering what it's like to try something completely new. I just think your biggest problem, according to your reply, is that you assume that everyone who joins a forum knows things that they might not know. And even if they did know, why search when you can just ask someone? Seriously, you never asked someone where something is or what something does in your life that you could have just found out on your own? Of course you have. And that's all yo mama did. I don't see anything wrong with a) not knowing or b) asking for help.

That's enough for me for now.
*sigh*
Alright, here goes...

Normally that's what happens. Just kind of lost it there.

A: it just makes sense to maybe look for a thread of the same topic.
B: That's actually a rule on many forums. If not a rule, it's a request within the rules.
If this was the person's first forum, then that's understandable.

False.

That also surprised me as, once again, it's in the weapon description.
Then again, the really super-cool part of it isn't. (By that I mean the change in sound and visual effects.

Nope.

It was the way in which the question was asked, combined with a lot of people asking the same question which appears to be obvious, and creating a new thread without prior use of "search" feature...
In and of itself, nothing wrong.

Alright, I don't agree with you on all those other stupid arguments that ran rampant in other threads, but you have several points here.
For the record, it normally doesn't lead to this... Just had a off day this time.
Don't want to come off as a jerk.

I also completely stand by what ekoz stated.

[cant aim]

Ok, has the Mini Blitwise FAQ ever been used?

[Rex Nex]

Nope. Stickies and Newbies don't go together.

[Adder_Poland]

Lemon is very good. I always add one slice of lemon to tea :D

[Rex Nex]

I prefer lemon in my soda...

[orbital pain]

ewwww..... actually hmmm. ill try that

[blissturd]

If this was the person's first forum, then that's understandable.

I also completely stand by what ekoz stated.
That is a total contadiction. Eveything ekoz said is assuming yo mama or anyone else who asked this question has even the slightest idea of how forums work in that manner and what comes with a game when you download it.


False.
Because...
As far as I can tell, every other weapon was made to be somewhat useful. Lemon was a joke. Even if you can come up with uses, those uses are most definitely not as useful as the uses of every other weapon.
I want to say that Glue Bomb is the closest or even Island but, they are both far more useful than Lemon. Don't even say Tracer because that's not at all intelligent.



Nope.
Sure I have. Because more than enough times, other people have asked about glue. And, again, you all tell them to search for the previous threads on it. I guess I could be wrong. I don't feel like looking for it this time. Not important.

[Samail]

That is a total contadiction. Eveything ekoz said is assuming yo mama or anyone else who asked this question has even the slightest idea of how forums work in that manner and what comes with a game when you download it.

It is? I fail to see it. Let's ask him. (Could be wrong.)

[blissturd]

Here it is again, what ekoz said.

blissturd, they may have gone off strong, but there is no need or reason to have to apologize on behalf of people. what's their problem is their problem, simple as that.

also, this has been stated a good number of times. plus, it is VERY self explanitory-lemon does nothing. it says it on the website, it says it in the reedme, it says it in the release thread, and it is fairly obvious while playing the game.

while i am not condoning the welcome this new blitter has recieved, i am not saying that he should get a free pass because he has seemingly refused to notice the obviousness of how useless the weapon lemon is.

plus, as most people who join forums should know, they must SEARCH forums before actually making a topic. there are at least 20 threads around here which contemplate the use of lemon, plus minmay's weapon guide, plus a link in rex's signature to a site that contains (at now, half) the weapon descriptions, and magic pack being one of them for the sole purpose of people going there to see what lemon does.

so blissturd, i see your intentions were good, but you must stop turning everything into an argument. it's annoying, and quite obviously irking everyone on this forum. if you must, join another forum to argue.
Imagine that you have no idea what a forum is and that you just purchased Pocket Tanks. Now, read what he is talking about.

And don't get me wrong when I said "Everything". I'm talking generally, when it comes to the main point of the discussion which is about why anyone would post a thread like this. It's the same thing as when ekoz said this, "it's annoying, and quite obviously irking everyone on this forum."
I'm quite sure I'm not annoying everyone on the forums. Probably just him.

Ekoz is just giving all kinds of reasons that it shouldn't have been done but, those reasons are nothing when it comes to someone who doesn't know them.
Notice how ekoz says, "seemingly rufused" and "should know". This is what makes it clear that he is stating all of this with the assumption that it is supposed to be a certain way for anything he is saying to be considered.

So, as you can see, ekoz covered himself there brilliantly. The only problem is the last thing he says about me turning things into arguments and annoying and irking everyone on the forums. I believe that it's the other way around.
If some one answers the question and that's it, then I wouldn't have anything to say. So, it's not what I'm saying that starts the argument. All I did is call out the person that called out the original poster.


call out* just replying against something someone says.

[Rex Nex]

Eww at a lemon in your Coke/Pepsi/other beverage? Odd. Most restaurants always put a lemon on your glass...

[ekoz]

wow, being contraversial is fun!

anway, for what i am saying:

1: first of all, it is plain rude to go around apologizing for people you don't even know. even if what THEY did is rude, you just don't do that.

2: True, while most of what i wrote goes under "assumption", there is still a slight side of oddness that must come with the main entry if said person refuses to do something which is universally known as "important". however, if this was the first forum the person belongs to, then they have the right to say they did not know to search. that is why that part of my post was complete assumption.

3: yes, blissturd, people are getting annoyed. people get annoyed when ANYBODY argues. i canb tell you right now, everybody here has annoyed somebody else. me, samail, even blue_moon? were not angels. but we know when to stop. but you, you just keep going. you refuse to admit defeat. and thats what annoys people. and trust me, people get annoyed. i just won't say names.

4:...lemons in coke/pepsi are actually quite common.

[blissturd]

1: first of all, it is plain rude to go around apologizing for people you don't even know. even if what THEY did is rude, you just don't do that.
Wow, that's not even true a little bit. Waiters, Waitresses, Managers, pretty much anyone at work does it. It's just not normal for people outside of that kind of place to do it. Just because it may be foreign to you, doesn't mean that it is rude. That's your opinion.
Besides, I've been on this forum long enough to know that Samail and others do that kind of stuff all the time.
Also, I can do whatever I want as long as it doesn't break any rules. So can you. Arguing is fun and so is controversy, as you have mentioned yourself. Even if you were joking, it's still true. It makes the forums interesting. Look at Slade in the Philosophical Thread. He actually wishes he would have been there sooner.


2: True, while most of what i wrote goes under "assumption", there is still a slight side of oddness that must come with the main entry if said person refuses to do something which is universally known as "important". however, if this was the first forum the person belongs to, then they have the right to say they did not know to search. that is why that part of my post was complete assumption.
Yeah, I agreed with everything that you said, really. It's just that it wasn't necessary because we don't know who this guy is and we don't know his situation. We are all just better off answering the question when it pops up and then moving along except for the fact that "being controversial is fun!".



3: yes, blissturd, people are getting annoyed. people get annoyed when ANYBODY argues. i canb tell you right now, everybody here has annoyed somebody else. me, samail, even blue_moon? were not angels. but we know when to stop. but you, you just keep going. you refuse to admit defeat. and thats what annoys people. and trust me, people get annoyed. i just won't say names.
You getting annoyed is not my problem. Get over it. I've done nothing wrong. My job is not to warp myself into something you like. I don't really care what you think.
As you've said anyway, we all annoy each other. I'm just not the type of person to admit defeat before it happens. Defeat me and I'll be glad to lay down my sword. Until then, BOW TO ME!



4:...lemons in coke/pepsi are actually quite common.
True. They even came out with Coca-Cola with Lemon and Pepsi Twist.

[Samail]

That's your opinion.
Besides, I've been on this forum long enough to know that Samail and others do that kind of stuff all the time.

You make it sound like we have a habit of mercilessly flaming new members.




My job is not to warp myself into something you like. I don't really care what you think.
As you've said anyway, we all annoy each other. I'm just not the type of person to admit defeat before it happens. Defeat me and I'll be glad to lay down my sword. Until then, BOW TO ME!

No one asked for that degree. It's a simple request to less of an Shift key+244.
That sounds fair.

Oh, it happens. The topic just gets so warped in several cases that it becomes unarguable and we give up.
As ekoz said, we know when to stop. You just keep going until we exhaust every possibility, and by then it's already begun going in a circle again, and never stops until we just give up and let you have your way.

*throws stone*



True. They even came out with Coca-Cola with Lemon and Pepsi Twist.

The one time I recall when Coke copied something from Pepsi.

At this point, I will apologize to topic's starter for the beautiful mess the question developed into, but the other points and my original one (now simplified) still stand.

This all belongs in the absent-Skix's "Flaming/Screaming Thread" thread...

[blissturd]

You make it sound like we have a habit of mercilessly flaming new members.Well, take it how you want. Usually, when someone asks something like this, this is the kind of response they get. Simply answer the question and notify the newbie of the search option.



Oh, it happens. The topic just gets so warped in several cases that it becomes unarguable and we give up.
As ekoz said, we know when to stop. You just keep going until we exhaust every possibility, and by then it's already begun going in a circle again, and never stops until we just give up and let you have your way.
Well, if this is really how it is, then don't even make a comment off of what I say in the beginning.
Ekoz and yourself could have never said a thing and just gave up when I made my first comment.

The way I see it, is that no matter what you all try to say, I have an answer for it because I'm the one that remains correct the entire time. If your arguments were all congruent then you could easily debunk mine. But, it is quite the contrary. I easily debunk anything and everything you say against me. Again, that's because I and everything that I say is congruent with one another.

This is why I mentioned earlier in another thread, I think, about getting all of your facts straight. Don't even try to argue with me if you don't even have a full proof set-up first. You'll need that because with time, your argument becomes subject to truth and fails to continue.



At this point, I will apologize to topic's starter for the beautiful mess the question developed into,
Apologies are good but, that's not what we need. We just need it to stop.
Just "family friendly" answer and info is all it takes.

but the other points and my original one (now simplified) still stand.Still stand? What, like the incongruities and misrepresentations? Cool, Nihilism so whatever.

[Samail]

Well, take it how you want. Usually, when someone asks something like this, this is the kind of response they get. Simply answer the question and notify the newbie of the search option.

No, it isn't.
Something subtly smart is said. Never to this degree.



The way I see it, is that no matter what you all try to say, I have an answer for it because I'm the one that remains correct the entire time. If your arguments were all congruent then you could easily debunk mine. But, it is quite the contrary. I easily debunk anything and everything you say against me. Again, that's because I and everything that I say is congruent with one another.

This is why I mentioned earlier in another thread, I think, about getting all of your facts straight. Don't even try to argue with me if you don't even have a full proof set-up first. You'll need that because with time, your argument becomes subject to truth and fails to continue.I really don't see how it's in-congruent at all.
And what "facts"? Now you're just pulling crap out of the air.
If you debunked everything everyone said, it wouldn't be continuing.

You, my friend, have superiority complex. A blistering superiority complex.
(Text left black intentionally.)

[Zwaken]

Define superiority complex.

[blue_moon]

I'm with Samail on this. Mainly because he hired me to, but also because it has been said so many times that Lemon is just a dud that it's not funny. You could enter 'lemon' in the search bar, and before you press enter it will replace it with 'dud'.

[Samail]

*cough*
I just asked for an extra opinion. Wanted to know what someone else thought, rather than the same two/three people going back and forth.

[ekoz]

RAWR!

we need mike here for this.

[Samail]

Thinking Brian would ref better.

[OmegaClassA]

AHHH I CANT STAND IT

ANOther thread hijacked by the evil debating duo.

and a word of wisdom

USE GOOGLE BEFORE U WASTE OUR TIME

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[blissturd]

I'm with Samail on this. Mainly because he hired me to, but also because it has been said so many times that Lemon is just a dud that it's not funny. You could enter 'lemon' in the search bar, and before you press enter it will replace it with 'dud'.
I'll just get this out of the way real quick because it's apparent that blue_moon is not paying attention.
Read this, big boi...Imagine that you have no idea what a forum is and that you just purchased Pocket Tanks. Now, read what he is talking about.
See, with what you said up top, blue_moon, you are assuming that this person even knows what a forums consists of and that he's been on one before. Maybe he doesn't know there is a search feature. You just took us back in a circle. As long as some one does this I will just repost the asnwers that we already given. You should really get the whole story before you join the wrong side.
I'll repost one thing again just so you are all clear...
Ekoz is just giving all kinds of reasons that it shouldn't have been done but, those reasons are nothing when it comes to someone who doesn't know them.
I don't disagree with ekoz's reasoning and what he is saying. It's just that it is only relevant if he knows who the original poster is and what he knows about forums and such which he doesn't because that guy is a new member.

Let's just say that one of the veterans of this forum came back and asked a question like this. Ekoz would be good saying exactly what he said and even you, Samail, with the first post you made would be cool but, this guy, yo mama, is of the unknown.

We know that the veterans know how to search and how the forums work so, it wouldn't be totally out of line to bust his balls about the said question. The new guy, busting his balls is not cool and trying to claim in anyway that he is mistaken for not searching or using the forums in a way that any regular would is asking too much. He may not know anything about this stuff.



This first one here is a bit low key but, still...
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=56837&postcount=9
You may not see what is confusing but someone else might.
And, at least, you answered the question. Not a big deal which is probably why I never said anything.


This one is a bit harsher. It's not from either of you but, the point is that it does happen.
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=51312&postcount=7



Now for some recollection of good times.


Remember this recent argument and how it ended. You both were mistaken.
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=73541&postcount=70
I think maybe you are both just trying to get me. Prove me wrong in whatever way you can. It's not going to happen. Okay, maybe it will but, I doubt it.


And remember when you said this, ekoz...
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72622&postcount=95
And Samail entered this one as well but, this time he agreed with me and I was right again.



And remember this one, Samail.
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72550&postcount=9
And I responded with...
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72552&postcount=10
Although, I was only messing with you but, I was still right.



I enjoyed this one a lot. You actually sided with me, Samail.
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72205&postcount=198
I believe this was the post that actually closed Brian's mouth too. Sooooooo good. So no, Samail, Thinking Brian would ref better. he might actually not ref better.


Okay, I'm done looking through all this stuff.
I wanted to reminisce in all my past triumphant glory.
I, mainly, just wanted to show you that I have a great history of being correct.

This argument, now, is just another one for the books.



Back to this thread...

I really don't see how it's in-congruent at all.
Post #15 points out one incongruency where you contradicted yourself. Then on post #16 you "failed to see" then wanted to ask ekoz, which he answered with post #19 to show that, yes, you were wrong.

Some more of Samails incongruities.
This one I like a lot. And, yes, Samail actually said this. And now we are arguing over something he said that completely goes against it. HAHA!
http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/showpost.php?p=51409&postcount=25



And what "facts"? Now you're just pulling crap out of the air.
Well, if that's what you think. I'm now showing all the "crap" straight from the threads.



If you debunked everything everyone said, it wouldn't be continuing.
Again, "everything" is stated generally and I'm showing you all of that in this post. You just continue it because you are incongruous.


You, my friend, have superiority complex. A blistering superiority complex.
Maybe I do. But, the way I see it, I just want things to make sense and be congruent with one another. So far in this thread, you continue to go against that, which is cool but, you'll be hearing from me because as you've mentioned yourself that I just like these little games.

[Samail]

I'll respond when I have access to a computer for more than 10 minutes.
Getting off work now and am out of the rest of the weekend.

I knew that's why you were looking at individual posts...


You have not seen the last of me.

*disappears*

[ekoz]

that's...quite a collection you have there...

i think my work here is done.

*melds into the darkness.*

[blissturd]

WAIT! Where are you guys going?

Drats!

*Vanishes into thin air*

*Re-emerges*

*Looks around*

Awww...

*Gone again in wondrous evanescence*

[OmegaClassA]

ZOMG
*Buries self in ANTS! ZOMG*
Mwahahahehehehehehe *COUGH*
*Ants go away*
*Gone*

[Rex Nex]

(Addressed to Blitwise as a whole)

You know, I want to say so much to all of you. But I don't. I shut up. You know why? Because in every single freaking way possible you tear my posts apart until you can get ONE falsity. Then, you make a ******* SECOND argument out of that, which rounds the table until you can ONCE AGAIN find another falsity. I don't pick apart any of your posts (Speaking to Blitwise as a whole, once again...), and you automatically assume that I have done the best I can do! Then, on future ramblings, you keep that in mind and fallow the same templet as before, picking things apart until you can come to a conclusion where you are supreme. All of this is sincerely depressing, and I sometimes question if these boards are worth it anymore.

Blue_Moon is the smartest of us. Nothing like this happened while he was around. But he saw it coming, and he left. And you know what? HE LEFT FOR A REASON. Some of you can't seem to comprehend what I am going through! LOOK AT THIS PLACE! This isn't the place I visited when I was 12! You all.. ruined it... *sniff*

And now, you guys pick apart people until you get to their age! You bias them, thinking they are stupid and make no sense at all, back up none of their statements, and, at my disgust, you don't give a **** about what happens to them. ****, you guys don't give a **** about what happens to anyone!

[blissturd]

Wow, you need help.

By the way, it's not what we say, it's how you take it.

And don't get bent over what anyone says. You should value yourself better than that.

If someone has a problem then you should realize that it's their problem, not yours.

My point in the beginning was exactly what you are saying now only I say it without being so fussy. There really is no reason for anything but the answer for the question to be mentioned except for the sole purpose of argument.

You make a good point except...
Blue_Moon is the smartest of us
Not true.
I think I proved that earlier.

No one is smarter than anyone. We are all just seeing things in a different way. Each of us is trying to convince the other. I usually do it based on things people say and other widely known ideas.

This is why sometimes I come across as a bad guy. Because mostly people only want things their own way and I just try hardest to find the evidence instead of just saying, "because, blah, blah".

Look at you now. You are a good example of what I'm talking about.
You want the forums to be a certain way and now that they are not you are whining over it. It's okay. No one is directly attacking you. Some of the people here are just the way they are. You need to get over that. Because it's not just here that this will happen. You are going to be a very disappointed person as your life goes on if you don't start understanding that anything anyone says is just who they are and no matter how much it seems, it's not you that is the problem unless you are the one with the problem.

And by the way, blue_moon is not gone.
I think he just knew better than to mess with me. :)
Until just recently, of course.


Also, you should really edit your post so that you don't get in any trouble. You breaking rules won't help anyone have compassion for what you say. It only makes you look more childish.
Be calm and have some control over yourself before you go saying things you might regret.

[Rex Nex]

Forget it bliss, if you arn't going to leave me alone even on that, then I don't even feel like visiting these boards. Whats left? Nothing. You wont, so I will.

If you want to use bleep, I'll overlook it, as long as it isn't a pattern

[blissturd]

Forget it bliss, if you arn't going to leave me alone even on that, then I don't even feel like visiting these boards. Whats left? Nothing. You wont, so I will.
I didn't do anything to you.
What do want? No one to respond to what you said?

Wow, you might as well crawl under a rock.

You just don't get it. Glad I'm not you.

[Rex Nex]

I didn't do anything to you.
What do want? No one to respond to what you said?

Wow, you might as well crawl under a rock.

You just don't get it. Glad I'm not you.
Because in every single freaking way possible you tear my posts apart until you can get ONE falsity. Then, you make a ******* SECOND argument out of that, which rounds the table until you can ONCE AGAIN find another falsity

A rock is a hell of a lot better place then your making this place.

Oh, I do get it. I'm glad that I'm not you either.

[blissturd]

You are very emotional right now. You should get some sleep.

Maybe you will wake up and stop being so irritable.

I love being me, by the way, I'm the happy one here. My life is awesome.

You seem like, even though you may not want to be me, you definitely don't want to be yourself right now.


Because in every single freaking way possible you tear my posts apart until you can get ONE falsity. Then, you make a ******* SECOND argument out of that, which rounds the table until you can ONCE AGAIN find another falsity
Do I really? Show me how I am "tearing" your posts apart. I'd like to see it. If it's your own fault then don't be getting mad at me.

[Bert]

(Addressed to Blitwise as a whole)

You know, I want to say so much to all of you. But I don't. I shut up. You know why? Because in every single freaking way possible you tear my posts apart until you can get ONE falsity. Then, you make a ******* SECOND argument out of that, which rounds the table until you can ONCE AGAIN find another falsity. I don't pick apart any of your posts (Speaking to Blitwise as a whole, once again...), and you automatically assume that I have done the best I can do! Then, on future ramblings, you keep that in mind and fallow the same templet as before, picking things apart until you can come to a conclusion where you are supreme. All of this is sincerely depressing, and I sometimes question if these boards are worth it anymore.

Blue_Moon is the smartest of us. Nothing like this happened while he was around. But he saw it coming, and he left. And you know what? HE LEFT FOR A REASON. Some of you can't seem to comprehend what I am going through! LOOK AT THIS PLACE! This isn't the place I visited when I was 12! You all.. ruined it... *sniff*

And now, you guys pick apart people until you get to their age! You bias them, thinking they are stupid and make no sense at all, back up none of their statements, and, at my disgust, you don't give a **** about what happens to them. ****, you guys don't give a **** about what happens to anyone!
I haven't laughed at a forum message for a while now, thanks for that.

[flankattack]

I guess some people think there is some hidden ability, like Phase Missile.

[AWP]

*continues skipping long posts*

[ekoz]

ekoz agrees with rex. ekoz is coming less and less. the reason ekoz is doing that, is because ekoz is doing such, is because this place is a hell and one more less than it used to be. it used to be "let's discuss pocket tanks strategies, weapons, and websites. mabey eve super dx ball and neon wars!" now, it's "lets piss each other off".

overall, ekoz believes that this place is no longer really even devoted to blitwise, just to a legion of mad people.

and why is ekoz talking in third person? because ekoz is having second thoughts about even using "I" and connecting himself to this hellhole.

[blissturd]

I haven't laughed at a forum message for a while now, thanks for that.
Haha! So, true. Amazing, right?


I guess some people think there is some hidden ability, like Phase Missile.
Exactly! But, for some reason these guys can't imagine that that could be possible. That's why you are supposed to just answer the question. Then they want to get all mad because they messed up when replying to the question and someone calls them on it.



overall, ekoz believes that this place is no longer really even devoted to blitwise, just to a legion of mad people.
Actually, I think the only one who is made here is Rex_Nex. So, obviously, it's his problem and he should take a year to travel up to the Ancient Chinese Mountain Realm of Zen and Meditate until tranquility and state of supreme calm and collection is reached within himself. Then and only then should he return.



and why is ekoz talking in third person? because ekoz is having second thoughts about even using "I" and connecting himself to this hellhole.
Here's a thought...Stop whining.
No one is attacking anyone. If you don't want to be called out then don't do anything wrong or anything that can be considered wrong.

What I think is that you are used to getting away with convincing everyone that your way is right. Well, guess what? I'm here and that junk don't fly.

Get the facts or don't even try to argue.

And some of the time I don't even disagree with what is said, just how and/or when it was said. Like how this whole argument started in this thread.

All I can say is that if YOU have a problem, then it's YOU that needs help.

[Rex Nex]

Actually Bliss, I was not made here. Back up what you say.

Ah, and so ends my era. Have fun guys, and Bliss, you be nice.

[blissturd]

Actually Bliss, I was not made here. Back up what you say.
Did you mean, "mad"?

Whatever. It looks as if you are mad. Either way. It's for sure that you are whining over nothing.

No one here has done anything to you that we all haven't already done to each other.


You have fun, Rex Nex. Hopefully everything everywhere else goes exactly the way you want it to.

Nice guys finish last. I'm honest. I've always been better off that way.

If I was being mean or doing something wrong then I probably would have be reprimanded already.


Do your best at the Mountain of Zen.

[Rex Nex]

No, I mean made. You said I was made here, re-read your post. I was never mad, just confused at your reaction.

And no, bliss, this has not ever happened to me. Maybe some day I will meet you on Zen.

[blue_moon]

Ignoring the majority of Bert's corrections, I am not the smartest, and I have not left. I come here practically every day.

I'm having thoughts about completely derailing this current discussion and instead start talking about my own personal life. It certainly would be better than whatever the hell you are talking about right now.

So, who saw Youtube Live? I for one thought it was pretty good, especially the part with the Mythbusters. I don't even know why they were there. I mean seriously, like, totally OMG lolsauce ROFLOG.

[blissturd]

No, I mean made. You said I was made here, re-read your post. I was never mad, just confused at your reaction.
Whoops! Typo. Surprised that you didn't get that, my child.


And no, bliss, this has not ever happened to me. Maybe some day I will meet you on Zen.
Well, there's a first time for everything. I still don't understand why you are being like this. I like you, Rex. I like everyone here. I'm the "Nihilism so whatever" guy. It's all good to me. I'm happy, happy, joy, joy for shizzle.



Ignoring the majority of Bert's corrections, I am not the smartest, and I have not left. I come here practically every day.
I think you mean, "Blissturd's corrections". Bert was just laughing, I believe.

But, nope, I didn't see it.

[Samail]

*skips over long ramblings posts of BS*

I don't care anymore. I'm sick of arguing with someone who does not shut up. (And I know what the response to that is going to be. [I also know what the respond to the bracketed comment is going to be.])

Samail agrees with ekoz and Rex Nex. (Though Rex Nex could have worded a little better.)
Yes, he was emotional, but he speaks the truth. Not much his left for us here.

Because of this, I received a depressing PM.

...We have lost another. How many must be lost? I don't know.
I took a vacation for the same reasons.

...Nice. Winamp started playing "Sorrow and Loss" from Final Fantasy IV. (I'm serious.)
Beautiful.

[blissturd]

Well, maybe we are better off without him.

It's not my fault he's gone. He just needs to sort out his own issues.

If I've done something wrong then, please, let me know. I believe I'm within the rules but, I might have missed something.

And if you agree with what Rex Nex said, then you also agree that I was tearing up his posts. How did I do that? I'd like to see it. Then maybe I can change the way I do things.

None of you show me exactly what I've done wrong. You just keep saying things that are mainly your own opinion.




Anyway, I'm listening to Winamp too. Sevendust - Face to Face

[Samail]

That's the thing. Yes, you are within the rules. There is nothing infraction-worthy. We are just sick of how... (I can't use a verb that won't give me an infraction) you are.

If Feronat had not broken the rules, we would be in a world of pain, and suffer from aneurysms.

[blissturd]

We are just sick of how... (I can't use a verb that won't give me an infraction) you are.
See? There you go again.

Why won't you just let me know what I'm doing that's so darn annoying?

Show me the posts where I've done so much damage.

[Samail]

Thought it was self-explanatory... ¬¬
You honestly don't see what people get uptight about? Every time we start arguing with you, it never stops. And the way in which your arguments are carried out, you tend to come of as trying to be better than everyone else, constantly fighting until you prove that you are the master of... whatever. (Which I have stated already.)

It's tricky to explain, but I'm thinking that's how the others feel, especially someone like Rex, who probably isn't customed to having arguments persist and nag at him for that long. (And he didn't even fully engaged in one with you.)

I have a string of a few key words that sum it up, but I would rather not.

[Bert]

It is a shame to see such a useful member go... :anirolleyes:

[blissturd]

You honestly don't see what people get uptight about? Every time we start arguing with you, it never stops. And the way in which your arguments are carried out, you tend to come of as trying to be better than everyone else, constantly fighting until you prove that you are the master of... whatever. (Which I have stated already.)
Wow, is that how it seems?
All I'm doing is just giving off loads of information. If that makes it seem like I'm trying to be better than anyone then that's you all's problem.
That is exactly why I said that you should get your information and facts straight before you even try to argue with me.

I don't like arguing. Why? because there is usually someone that is wrong in an argument. All I like to do is give information that way I cannot be wrong because all I'm basically doing is "reading out of the books".


By the way, I just looked back through this thread starting from the very beginning and I didn't say anything directly against Rex Nex before that little outburst.
I think he might have me confused with someone else.


It's tricky to explain, but I'm thinking that's how the others feel, especially someone like Rex, who probably isn't customed to having arguments persist and nag at him for that long. (And he didn't even fully engaged in one with you.)
And this...
Notice how you used the word, "feel". It doesn't matter how you feel when the way it is, is the way it is.

As I've said earlier, get your facts straight. Stop just feeling. It only makes you look bad because you can't prove anything.




And, Bert, STOP! You're killin' me.

[Samail]

...Get the facts straight? I'm still not understanding that part. (Probably because I skipped through that huge post.)
Care to sum that up for me?

About Rex, I wasn't saying that you tear through his posts specifically.
I don't think he was either. Then again...
Bah. If I could ask him, I would.

[blissturd]

Well, this was Rex Nex's "I've finally snapped" post.

(Addressed to Blitwise as a whole)

You know, I want to say so much to all of you. But I don't. I shut up. You know why? Because in every single freaking way possible you tear my posts apart until you can get ONE falsity. Then, you make a ******* SECOND argument out of that, which rounds the table until you can ONCE AGAIN find another falsity. I don't pick apart any of your posts (Speaking to Blitwise as a whole, once again...), and you automatically assume that I have done the best I can do! Then, on future ramblings, you keep that in mind and fallow the same templet as before, picking things apart until you can come to a conclusion where you are supreme. All of this is sincerely depressing, and I sometimes question if these boards are worth it anymore.

Blue_Moon is the smartest of us. Nothing like this happened while he was around. But he saw it coming, and he left. And you know what? HE LEFT FOR A REASON. Some of you can't seem to comprehend what I am going through! LOOK AT THIS PLACE! This isn't the place I visited when I was 12! You all.. ruined it... *sniff*

And now, you guys pick apart people until you get to their age! You bias them, thinking they are stupid and make no sense at all, back up none of their statements, and, at my disgust, you don't give a **** about what happens to them. ****, you guys don't give a **** about what happens to anyone!


It seems like he is talking about me based on the things that you said as well, about people getting annoyed by me. But, I guess he is talking about everyone, in general. I guess that includes you.

It also looks as if he was talking about me based on this:
Forget it bliss, if you arn't going to leave me alone even on that, then I don't even feel like visiting these boards. Whats left? Nothing. You wont, so I will.
As it shows in the thread, I didn't even do anything to him in the earlier posts. It seems a bit obvious that he is directing things at me. I don't know what his problem is.




And about the "getting your facts straight":

First off, I'd like to see the proof of what you are accusing me of doing, not just you keep saying that I'm doing it.

Second, it's just another way of saying that you are inconguous in your arguments. You can read about some of the examples in post #30.

Next, you are now, again, taking us in circles. Notice how I kind of answered another concern of yours with an earlier post recall.

Finally, for now, I think that if you really knew when to stop, ekoz said and then you agreed in post #21, then you would have done so already.





And look at this...

No, I mean made. You said I was made here, re-read your post. I was never mad, just confused at your reaction.

Rex Nex actually did the exact thing that he was complaining about.

I, simply, made a typo and he called me out on it like it's some huge thing. Common sense and sentence context, as well as the previous posts context, would tell you that when I typed "made" I meant "mad".
Then he goes and makes a post just to "rip" me on it. Who's tearing apart posts now?
So, unless he really just "Durr'd" and didn't recognize what I meant and that it was just a typo, then he is totally contradicting himself and he is such a hypocrite that he himself is proving that he left the forums because of his own problems.



NOTICE:

Notice in this whole post, as well as others, I just use more and more documented proof of what is really going on here. I'm not making any claims that are not backed up by anything. This may be why you all dislike the way I do things. People hate the facts when the facts shut them up.

[Everlast]

what is the point of the weapon "Lemon"? is it just a useless weapon that does 1 damage each time?:confused::confused:

Yes. :)

[Rex Nex]

Was just looking for the :anirolleyes: smiley, and the amount of posts in this thread caught my eye. Guess I'll say one more thing.

Well, this was Rex Nex's "I've finally snapped" post.



It seems like he is talking about me based on the things that you said as well, about people getting annoyed by me. But, I guess he is talking about everyone, in general. I guess that includes you.

Yes, and no. He has never said anything bad about me.

It also looks as if he was talking about me based on this:

I am directing that on you because you're tearing posts apart. You have done it at least 5 times in this thread alone, and you need to realize that even though your point is valid, it isn't always acceptable to say it, I.E, holding your tongue. I snapped because I was holding my tongue too long. I don't like having even one member dislike me, and you may claim you don't, but if that was true you would have just said "Oi! Rex, let me talk to you in a PM, I think you're wrong."

As it shows in the thread, I didn't even do anything to him in the earlier posts. It seems a bit obvious that he is directing things at me. I don't know what his problem is.

I am not speaking for myself entirely. You don't really bother me, but I can see where everything leads.

And about the "getting your facts straight":

First off, I'd like to see the proof of what you are accusing me of doing, not just you keep saying that I'm doing it.

Second, it's just another way of saying that you are inconguous in your arguments. You can read about some of the examples in post #30.

Next, you are now, again, taking us in circles. Notice how I kind of answered another concern of yours with an earlier post recall.

Finally, for now, I think that if you really knew when to stop, ekoz said and then you agreed in post #21, then you would have done so already.

I will leave this up to Samail to respond to.



And look at this...



Rex Nex actually did the exact thing that he was complaining about.

I, simply, made a typo and he called me out on it like it's some huge thing. Common sense and sentence context, as well as the previous posts context, would tell you that when I typed "made" I meant "mad".
Then he goes and makes a post just to "rip" me on it. Who's tearing apart posts now?
So, unless he really just "Durr'd" and didn't recognize what I meant and that it was just a typo, then he is totally contradicting himself and he is such a hypocrite that he himself is proving that he left the forums because of his own problems.

Calm yourself. I was doing that on purpose to prove what arguing takes things to. I am not dumb enough to contradict myself so easily. Look



NOTICE:

Notice in this whole post, as well as others, I just use more and more documented proof of what is really going on here. I'm not making any claims that are not backed up by anything. This may be why you all dislike the way I do things. People hate the facts when the facts shut them up.

We dislike "The way you do things" because you do it with no emotion at all. People may dislike it, but you're right so it doesn't matter, does it bliss.


As said above, I am not entirely acting for myself, Samail. What I meant and what I said is two different things. I said you tear my posts apart, because I know you would. I imply that because earlier in that same post, I said I always hold my tongue so no one is mad at me. This comes to a conclusion that if I do stop holding my tongue, I would have my posts torn apart.

And as for you tearing posts apart, you are right now. You are mercilessly searching through posts for a falsity. You may call it "Backing up your facts", but it is the very same mercilessness that makes these arguments last forever.

[Samail]

It's just one of those things that's a simple matter, but very hard to discuss and explain...

It's also only when arguing. Any time you're discussing anything else, ie: Pocket Tanks, weapon suggestions, etc, everything's hunky-dorie.
It's when an argument starts up that everything gets miserable in a hurry.

As for stopping... I knew you were going to bring that up eventually.
I guess we both want to keep this up. It's one of those human characteristics; a competition, isn't it?
I personally would like to stop, but... it's really hard with your persistence.

[Everlast]

.........Ok, back on topic. Has anyone played a game with ONLY lemons? It's dumb but kinda fun, and it keeps the score low. :D

[OmegaClassA]

i did once, i never will again

it was a waste of time, the neither the ai or me scored, at all...
i almost scored........

[blissturd]

We dislike "The way you do things" because you do it with no emotion at all. People may dislike it, but you're right so it doesn't matter, does it bliss.
Well put. That's my point. I don't use emotion because it gets in the way.
In the court of law, although this is not one, only facts and evidence hold up. Emotion means nothing.




I am directing that on you because you're tearing posts apart. You have done it at least 5 times in this thread alone, and you need to realize that even though your point is valid, it isn't always acceptable to say it, I.E, holding your tongue. I snapped because I was holding my tongue too long. I don't like having even one member dislike me, and you may claim you don't, but if that was true you would have just said "Oi! Rex, let me talk to you in a PM, I think you're wrong."
Hey, I'm not the only one who "tears" posts apart. So directing at me is pointless. So far, I don't see where anything wasn't "acceptable". If someone is saying something false or contradictory, saying something isn't just acceptable, it's necessary. Okay, not really but, what it's responding to was probably not necessary to begin with and I just can't let that slide. I can't help it. I think it's an illness or some kind of super power.




As for stopping... I knew you were going to bring that up eventually.
I guess we both want to keep this up. It's one of those human characteristics; a competition, isn't it?
I personally would like to stop, but... it's really hard with your persistence.
You knew I was going to bring it up, huh? So, you understand after all. Makes sense right? Why say something like that and expect something not to be said back?
I'll only keep it up as long as there continues to be proof of fault. I can't say anything if there isn't any defects. This is not a competition to me. Just trying to square things up.
Well, then, stop. Like I said, I can't say anything if there isn't any defects.




What I meant and what I said is two different things.
This is never a good thing to do. I don't think there is any disagreement here.





And as for you tearing posts apart, you are right now. You are mercilessly searching through posts for a falsity. You may call it "Backing up your facts", but it is the very same mercilessness that makes these arguments last forever.
Hey, I usually only read them once and the only time I go back is when I have to prove something to you guys that was said already.
Besides, you are kind of tearing apart mine now too. Even after you said you were leaving. Just leave if you are going to leave and don't look back. I wouldn't recommend it. I don't think you want to and no one here wants you to either. Stop getting frustrated over the things you don't like if they irk you that much. Just focus on all the goodness. This forum is for Blitwise goodness. Enjoy that and ignore everything else.


And there is no mercy here. I'm not God. Don't mess up and nothing can go wrong. If you do, then be willing to except the consequences. Or just ignore it as I've said already.





Yep, I've played only Lemons before. It's quite boring.

[Machovict]

Yep, I've played only Lemons before. It's quite boring.
WHAT!?! How can you not enjoy the the corny sound effects accompanying each volley? "POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop.............."

[blissturd]

WHAT!?! How can you not enjoy the the corny sound effects accompanying each volley? "POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop ...... POOT ... plop.............."
Actaully, that's the part that I enjoy. Even looking at it is kinda funny but, it get's boring and doing it again is not something that is gonna happen.

Once is good enough.

[Rex Nex]

Well, you know what I have to say to this entire argument?

Nihilism, so whatever.

[Samail]

Hear hear.
Or something.

[blissturd]

That's what I'm talking about.

Let's all just hold hands and make babies! :shocked:

Not again...

[AWP]

Okay, now, everyone calm down, and make yourself a lemon juice, and then download an aquarium screen saver and relax.

[Val81]

I have won using only lemons before. AND WIND.

Beat that!

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2111/lemonwinhk9.png

[AWP]

zOMG y0|_| |-|a3W t3h w3!Nd LAWL!!!!11!!1one!!!eleven!!!!hundraeleven

[Everlast]

That was some fierce competition!

[blissturd]

Booo! The wind was helping you. h4X!

[XRaiderV1]

I have one word that best describes the rex/bliss exchange: childish!

come on! we should be setting an example for the younger generation that visits this site, not ripping one another to pieces over what, a petty disagreement?!

lemon is lemon, it is what it is, period, end of topic, moving on.

all I can say, is I'm glad I missed the exchange.

and, I find I enjoy matches with nothing but lemons, it's funnier that way.

[blissturd]

And even more childish is you bumping this thread saying that the disagreement was childish.

Congratulations! Here is your toy. Now go play.



Talk about setting examples, huh?
Here is a good example for you:

If it's dead, leave it alone. (In case you don't understand, the exchange is over so, your comment about it, especially being over two weeks late, is unnecessary. "Moving on", you say? We already did. Thanks for swingin' back around.)

[Clasher0609]

Mike explained that it was a dud weapon and that means that its a weapon that tricks people into getting it.

[AWP]

Mike explained that it was a dud weapon and that means that its a weapon that tricks people into getting it.

Exactly. Mystery solved. No more question about the Lemon, please!

[OmegaClassA]

Case closed! Now can we all stop fighting?

[Samail]

We did a while before http://forums.blitwise.com/forums/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 12-03-2008, 08:20 PM...
Can we all stop reviving?

Aw, you made me start a new page...

[chato92]

Lemon my secret weapon it has a hidden ability (to hit you ahah) love that weapon