Overpowered

[ZackTheMan]

I think the most recent weapons pack (Gold) includes some rather unfairly overpowered weapons and I'd like to get some discussion going on whether others agree with me. The two weapons I refer too are Spinner and lava. Properly used lava can do something in the neighborhood of 300 damage...Frankly in relation to the other weapons in the game thats an extremely difficult thing to combat...Spinner is on the list simply because if one is to bring that weapons to point-blank range there is basically no counter...example of this is included in zip attachment

[Was It Me?]

I'd agree with the Spinner comment. I think that you shouldn't be able to get massive amounts of points from point blank "cheap shots"...

[???revived]

...Which is why I never take things like Jump Jets and Turn and Burn...

I think the Fireworks Pack came with more really powerful weapons than the Gold Pack did. At least the Gold Pack added some neat utility weapons (Tunnel, Bouncy Ball), but Fireworks pack just came up with a bunch of super powerful weapons such as Fireworks or Super Nova, that take very little to no skill to use and yet deal tons of damage.

[Lommen]

Theres not a whole lot he can do about that if u want any high powered weapons at all.

[zetablack]

well just think if all the weapons were above 100 points they wouldn't be really that powerfull...

[Everlast]

ok i have no clue how to get "massive" points with spinner. whenever i use it at point blank range it does damage to me as well as to the other tank and i only get at a max of 70 points, i also tried it far away and still didn't get the "3000" points like u all say u have gotten, none of the weapons seam "over-powered" to me. if you all show me a pic of u getting 3000+ points with spinner than i will beleive you, because i have tried and tried to do this and nothing works, yes i have tunneled under the enemy tank and shot it up at it and nothing

[Was It Me?]

ok i have no clue how to get "massive" points with spinner. whenever i use it at point blank range it does damage to me as well as to the other tank and i only get at a max of 70 points, i also tried it far away and still didn't get the "3000" points like u all say u have gotten, none of the weapons seam "over-powered" to me. if you all show me a pic of u getting 3000+ points with spinner than i will beleive you, because i have tried and tried to do this and nothing works, yes i have tunneled under the enemy tank and shot it up at it and nothing

It has to be a certain angle so I've heard... I have only gotten 900 myself. That's still way overpowered if you ask me.

[???revived]

The problem with overpowered weapons is, as stated before, that they drown out the original weapons, which were nice and balanced.

For example: Fire a Super Nova at long range. When it gets close to the enemy it does that effect thing and gives you about 70 points.

Fire a Single Shot. You need to be much more accurate with it, as its explosion size is small, and when you hit, you deal about 60 damage.

Compare that skill requiring 60 points from the Single Shot to the easy 70 points from the Super Nova...

[Kalphite]

Telling you this will make another glitch and may couse the game no longer fun for you, well, maybe not, but it's a big downside knowing.... im going to tell a few lines under, but trust me, you will wish you Didn't know more than want to know how to get 4k pts now.


































Go right next to the tank and use spinner, you have to try it on angles, and if you computer is slow it will cause it to jitter a lot.




ok i have no clue how to get "massive" points with spinner. whenever i use it at point blank range it does damage to me as well as to the other tank and i only get at a max of 70 points, i also tried it far away and still didn't get the "3000" points like u all say u have gotten, none of the weapons seam "over-powered" to me. if you all show me a pic of u getting 3000+ points with spinner than i will beleive you, because i have tried and tried to do this and nothing works, yes i have tunneled under the enemy tank and shot it up at it and nothing

[Kalphite]

Actualy, to show proof, i made a video, i download this screen capture program, it was a piece of **** but its just to show you what i mean. The game on my computer is usualy 100% top performance but the video slowed it down a lot. It also captured the mouse, and so there are 2 in the game from time to time....


http://download.yousendit.com/D4400E7B6A84EB27

You will need win-ace to open it, and its 21megabites, but i did a move and i got over 4000 points.



Enjoy

[zetablack]

how 21 megabites for just that or for win ace?

[Kalphite]

21 megabites for the file uncompressed. When it's compressed its somthing like 3 or whatever.

[ZackTheMan]

i included a picture of like 4000 points gotten with spinner in my original message....it's not that difficult to do....i think a weapon like that makes the game way uneven, and fireworks at least takes skill to get the massive damage...supernova....i've never tried getting tons of damage with that....i'd assume the only way you could do it would be to get close just like you do with the spinner....but either way if you had 3 supernova's and i had one spinner...if i get close to you....you lose....end of statement

[Kalphite]

Thats why its hard to get close up to somone in 2 player/1player games, if you play target practice you say it make the game uneven, sure, if i used sniper 100 time it would be uneven also, but target practice is just to testy out the weapons.

Also if you use spinner, then the next tanks weapon is spinner, but when you shoot it becomes what it was supposed to be. If you put your mouse over spinner, when its supposed to be somthing else, then it goes to what it's supposed to be. I show all this in my video.

[TommyGun]

I think the most recent weapons pack (Gold) includes some rather unfairly overpowered weapons and I'd like to get some discussion going on whether others agree with me. The two weapons I refer too are Spinner and lava. Properly used lava can do something in the neighborhood of 300 damage...Frankly in relation to the other weapons in the game thats an extremely difficult thing to combat...Spinner is on the list simply because if one is to bring that weapons to point-blank range there is basically no counter...example of this is included in zip attachment

Although there are some other weapons that deal a lot of damage, spinner at point-blank can get about 2,000points and how can you top that?.... hot foot can get over 300, "funnel w/ sprinkler" can get about 500, mega reaction can get about 300 (when your opponent is on the base line) but i think Lava is fare, but "spinner w/ turn and burn" is too much

[TommyGun]

ok i have no clue how to get "massive" points with spinner. whenever i use it at point blank range it does damage to me as well as to the other tank and i only get at a max of 70 points, i also tried it far away and still didn't get the "3000" points like u all say u have gotten, none of the weapons seam "over-powered" to me. if you all show me a pic of u getting 3000+ points with spinner than i will beleive you, because i have tried and tried to do this and nothing works, yes i have tunneled under the enemy tank and shot it up at it and nothing

Put your explosion size up in the option menu, and put your explosion kick down, then try spinner at point blank.

[dakilla]

u can get like 4k points off of spinner, but u have to be directly on the bottom of the screen and have the barrel inside the other tank... which is very hard to do in a game...

[DoubleThink]

mega reaction can get about 300 (when your opponent is on the base line) but i think Lava is fare, but "spinner w/ turn and burn" is too much

Lava + Funnel can get 400 easy, and technically that's a 'legit' combination. Although I guess without funnel it can end up doing nest to nothing... Funnel just makes it too easy to kick *** :(

[Was It Me?]

I don't think that Lava is unfair. It's just one of the really powerful weapons. There have to be a few of those, right? It's still possible to make a mistake with it and get next to no points.

[zetablack]

and look at spinner it wasn't made to do so much point dmg it just has a little bug when you get to close it does alot lol.

[???revived]

That's not a bug. That's a feature...

And tell me, outside of Target Practice, in how many of your games do you actually get up that close to the enemy tank?

Besides, Spinner is powerful at long range as well, with around a 60 point gain with little skill required.

[ZackTheMan]

Well I guess if the new platform update for pocket tanks includes a feature to turn off weapons then i'll just turn spinner off. I still think the weapon is just too powerful...

[zetablack]

i can get close but when i use it hit blows up right in front of me

[???revived]

Well I guess if the new platform update for pocket tanks includes a feature to turn off weapons then i'll just turn spinner off. I still think the weapon is just too powerful...

There are a lot more weapons that are just too powerful, such as Super Nova, which is an easy 70 points at long range, or Super Star, which can give well over 150 points at long range...

[ZackTheMan]

150 isn't that hard to combat....and idk what all this talk of super nova is....it's not that great Roman Candle does almost the same...as for 150, with funnel in the game getting 150 in one hit really isn't that remarkable anymore...

[zetablack]

Thats true and what i said if all the weapons are in the 100 dmg area there not really powerfull

[???revived]

150 isn't that hard to combat....and idk what all this talk of super nova is....it's not that great Roman Candle does almost the same...as for 150, with funnel in the game getting 150 in one hit really isn't that remarkable anymore...

Super Nova is an EASY 70 damage. All you have to do is aim in the general area and you get an easy 70 points.

If you say 150 points is not much, than Sniper Rifle and Cannon Ball are useless, no?

[Imposter]

I remember when sniper was the best weapon and you acually had to work for the points...

Ah well, good times.

[zetablack]

Yea i remember that ahhh good times good times....

[Xap]

In the new game you will be able to disable all the weapons except those twenty, if you want!:)

[Saint Wacko]

ok i have no clue how to get "massive" points with spinner. whenever i use it at point blank range it does damage to me as well as to the other tank and i only get at a max of 70 points, i also tried it far away and still didn't get the "3000" points like u all say u have gotten, none of the weapons seam "over-powered" to me. if you all show me a pic of u getting 3000+ points with spinner than i will beleive you, because i have tried and tried to do this and nothing works, yes i have tunneled under the enemy tank and shot it up at it and nothing

First, both tanks have to be on the bottom of the screen.
Second, the tip of your turret has to be actually inside the main body of the other tank.

[Pyrobellum]

I think the funnel really is too powerful. It makes or breaks the game. Against CPU 10, it's no challenge to trap them in a funnel and send waves of aqua bombs, hail storms, and napalms in there. I would like the tunnel to dig a smaller hole, maybe 1/2 to 2/3 the size. That way you can survive without taking the funnel. Lava has the potential to get massive points, but if you put it to maximum kick it rarely does. I agree with the supernova and the superstar, they really are just easy points. I would like a much smaller activation radius for those two weapons. If it's not too late to change them that is...

[Black Magic]

Couldn't you just turn off the weapons? I don't have the deluxe version (yet), but in the demo under options you can remove any weapons you want. Surely the deluxe version also has a remove list... right?

[Was It Me?]

Surely the deluxe version also has a remove list... right?
Yes, brand new feature in the brand new version. ;)

[Black Magic]

It does? Okay I got worried for a sec... getting nine hundred points off of one weapon sounds amazing though...

[Brian]

Technically, two weapons. It takes a bit of foresight.

[Black Magic]

Ah, well the most points I've ever gotten in one hit was around one hundred. Though technichally I did get two hundred points by firing a tommy gun up close in Target Practice, but that shouldn't count...