New Weapon Packs Now Out!

[Brian]

Visit the Weapons Depot (http://www.blitwise.com/ptanksdepot.html) to get Tornado Pack today! Remember, as I said elsewhere, this expansion pack requires you have v1.20 of Pocket Tanks Deluxe to work! You can email me at techsupport@blitwise.com with the name and email address used to order Deluxe to get the latest version. Please be patient with turnaround, as I anticipate a flood of emails. :) Emails are usually responded to within one business day, and I will also be answering emails tomorrow as well to help as many of you out as quickly as possible.

Also, you can download Fuzz Pack (http://www.blitwise.com/ptfuzz.exe) now for free. It is compatible with v1.00b and newer.

[VoLAN]

I can't believe!!! Yeah baby, YEAH!!!!

[blue_moon]

I got both packs, but I have to wait for V1.2. This stinks. Anyway, I sent Brian an email for it, so I will get it tomorrow!

[zwillyc]

Thanks for the hard work

[Brian]

I've just replied to all the emails I got as of 3:30 Eastern, and I might do a few more tonight if they come in. Ask and ye shall receive.

[Pyrobellum]

Argh! Mac packs still aren't out yet! Argh!!!
:mad:

[Slade]

WWWWOOOOOOHHHOOOOO!!! They're finally here!!!:):):)

[endgame]

The fuzz pack looks great. It certainly adds a new dynamic to the game. I especially like sidekick. I can't wait to see the Tornado pack.

[blue_moon]

Hey, I got mine! fnord! gaplly! wopily! pogomogo! Anyway, I like V1.2. Infact, today is so good, I like everybody!

[Pyrobellum]

*hugs*
I still need something to supplement this happiness. Mind expanding substances, or a Mac expansion?

[shadow35]

Much coolness. All the new packs sound great. Am waiting with baited breath for version 1.2 e-mail.

[Malice913150]

i am slightly annoyed though with the v1.2. you have to reinstall all the packs? i dont have the setups anymore >_<

[blue_moon]

I didn't have to. I had every single pack installed, and they are still there.

[Malice913150]

lol im dumb. got it now.

brb fuzz pack

[Dantopia]

Oh man, these new packs are great!

Love the Fizz Bombs...they're so pretty....

[jstrok7]

Great!I don't know when will I get enough money to buy Ptanks Deluxe but when I do, ya know! hehe :D

[endgame]

I have to wait until my deposit goes through to my checking account. Maybe by tonight.

[Zwaken]

YAY!!! Now for emailing...

[???revived]

Awesome. A great start to a weekend...

[shadow35]

Almost instant reply to my request for version 1.2 and GREAT weapon packs (fuzz and tornado). Brian, you rock my man.

[rwtroll]

Wow! These last two are easily the best weapons packs yet....... the tornado pack is truly awesome! Love the 'transporter' weapon..... 'tornado'...... but heck their all cool :)

[blue_moon]

Yeah, I miss out using them for the first few days, my family is going 100 miles away from our house. It stinks. I was looking forward to being able to play at least 15 minutes with them this weekend.

[wildgoosespeeder]

Me likey the Fuzz Pack! Me might likey the Tornado Pack (me probably will likey)!
:p ;) :D :o :) :cool: :eek: :shocked:

[Zwaken]

I think the font size on the website where it says that it's only compatible with 1.2 should be bigger...I can almost garuantee that someone will say "I BOUGHT IT, AND IT DOESN'T WORK!"

[jstrok7]

I think the font size on the website where it says that it's only compatible with 1.2 should be bigger...I can almost garuantee that someone will say "I BOUGHT IT, AND IT DOESN'T WORK!"

That will only say those who didn't bought the orginal deluxe version .
Becuase, if you buy deluxe you can easily request 1.2 . ;)

[Kaz21]

So far I have only got Fuzz pack which is awesome!
Can someone take a screenshot of what one of the weapons using V1.2 looks like because I'm interested.

[VoLAN]

Go to Fan pics -> Xpacks

[Brian]

Oh, believe me, people have said it. One person even requested a refund. They don't notice that you need v1.20.

[wildgoosespeeder]

Me likey the Fuzz Pack! Me might likey the Tornado Pack (me probably will likey)!
:p ;) :D :o :) :cool: :eek: :shocked:

I'm right! Me likey the Tornado Pack!

[wildgoosespeeder]

Oh, believe me, people have said it. One person even requested a refund. They don't notice that you need v1.2.

Who would request a refund for a great game like Pocket Tanks? Huh?! Huh?! Huh?!

[Death]

Oh, believe me, people have said it. One person even requested a refund. They don't notice that you need v1.20.

I really don't like stupid people. I mean, it said 1.20 on the pack for heavens sake!:mad:

[Zwaken]

Who would request a refund for a great game like Pocket Tanks? Huh?! Huh?! Huh?!

Someone most likely pirated Ptanks (an earlier version) and the bought (yes, bought, not pirate) the Tornado pack. They didn't realize it required 1.2...If only these people bought the game...that would solve a lot of problems.

[jstrok7]

Someone most likely pirated Ptanks (an earlier version) and the bought (yes, bought, not pirate) the Tornado pack. They didn't realize it required 1.2...If only these people bought the game...that would solve a lot of problems.

THAT is what I was trying to say . :)

[Aquapple]

Man this is frustrating -

Almost 8 months with NO activity on ctspgames.com!
No Neon Wars, no new Pocket Tanks, no weapon packs. :confused: There are so many people that I personally know that want to buy the updated Mac version of the game with the new weapon packs!

I am starting to fear that Mac fans will never see the new game... I have sent several emails to Mike at CTSP with no reply.

I have 30+ people at my job that play this game on a Mac every single day at break and love it!

[Ptankschamp]

Ya people should stop pirating.

And people SHOULD NOT put pocket tanks 1.2 and the tornado pack up on a torrent site. I REPEAT SHOULD NOT!!! ;)

[blue_moon]

Yeah, pirates aren't exactly too bright. They think that they can steal anything, with there knowledge of the internet and the root folder. They also believe that if they stole it, they should give it to people who can't steal, isn't that kind of stupid? Pirates don't give away their treasure, they keep it for themselves.

[Everlast]

Exactly, if I bought something I wouldn't give it away.

[TurtleTuck]

WOW!!!! the fuzz is my favorite pack yet!!! I'm so exited, I love it!!!
all the wepons in this one are different and original espesially side kick, and blocade, fuzz ball too. It's great!! the wait was really long but it was defiatly worth it. Thanks blitwise!:D

[Pyrobellum]

I hope it's worth the wait. Mac users are still waiting... :mad:

[Zwaken]

Yeah, pirates aren't exactly too bright. They think that they can steal anything, with there knowledge of the internet and the root folder. They also believe that if they stole it, they should give it to people who can't steal, isn't that kind of stupid? Pirates don't give away their treasure, they keep it for themselves.

Argh ye mate...True words...WALK THE PLANK FOR SPEAKIN' THE TRUTH...Argh...

[forever lost dynasty]

I've got both packs....worth the wait thanks brian!

[Brian]

I wouldn't blame the behavior specifically on pirates. The person who wanted a refund legitimately bought the game. They just didn't notice that Tornado Pack required v1.20. Many people have made that mistake, as it is likely they would.

[Pyrobellum]

Illiteracy is a terrible thing... No, wait, that doesn't quite fit.
Ignorance is a terrible thing... oh wait, "* Requires Pocket Tanks Deluxe v1.2 or higher for Windows ". Let's try again.
stupidiousness...

[Mind control] Work on Mac 1.2 faster... faaaaaster![/Mind Control]

[Brian]

Why do I have the sudden urge to break into the offices of CTSP and help Mike work on the updated version???

[Techstuf]

I'm caught between a rock and a boulder too, as I love the new weapons packs, but am less than fond of version 1.2. Why they deviated from the proven forumula of 1.00b is beyond me. Sure, 1.00b needed to be improved....AI aiming, movement, strategy etc. But those wholly horrible scoring cheats and handicapper make the game feel like a cheap, dumbed down, why bother, newb fest at times. Alienating the inner core, die hard true fan base of this game in favor of dazzling newbs for a few games till they catch on to the abrasive level of artificiality in the gaming experience is not wise, BlitWise even, in my view. Tell me, whose gonna want to keep buying weapons packs for a game that's hacked up with obvious CPU cheats rather than simple and impressive AI improvements? I'll tell you who, those hapless enough to assume they'll work with a better, earlier version....(like me) Fool me once....

They were so close with 1.00B! A few tweaks and genuinely creative AI strategy improvements would have put it over the top! I know I can't be in the minority of die hard PT fans who would much rather have no scoring cheats and a real gaming experience than the palling compromises as of late.

I hope that the networked version truly is nearing final developement....it alone can now make up for what's happening to PT.

It's my last best hope to rekindle a once sublime addiction.


TS

[yen0652]

I love the new packs!! but i have a ?

One time when i used the saucer attack...it fell on top of him instead of going up...is that just a glitch?

[Techstuf]

Not 30 minutes after posting the above, PT began exhibiting interesting AI characteristics....what gives? Why so few and far between does the CPU act so, so human? I have seen the PT AI engine do some amazing things on very, very rare occasions. Why can't we ditch the scoring, aiming cheats and get these strategy gems on the main stage? A few moments ago, for the first time in 50 games on the new version 1.2, the CPU vectored a digger at 75 degree vertical incline away from my direction.


I hope the PT team can see the advantage of focussing more on mimicking human response rather than blatant scoring and aiming cheats.


Of course, good network play will render my ranting mooter than a.....well......MOOT!


TS

[endgame]

Not 30 minutes after posting the above, PT began exhibiting interesting AI characteristics....what gives? Why so few and far between does the CPU act so, so human? I have seen the PT CPU do some amazing things on very, very rare occasions. Why can't we ditch the scoring, aiming cheats and get these strategy gems on the main stage? A few moments ago, for the first time in 50 games on the new version 1.2, the CPU vectored a digger at 75 degree vertical incline away from my direction.


I hope the PT team can see the advantage of focussing more on mimicking human response rather than blatant scoring and aiming cheats.


Of course, good network play will render my ranting mooter than a.....well......MOOT!


TS
Can't handle the cpu-10? :p

Just joking. I like playing against a "stacked" opponent; it'll only help you get better.

[blue_moon]

I am beginning to think the whole randomness issue was entirely in our heads as of now. Don't take that as an insult (anyone), but I think we are so used to seeing a repetition of weapons that now it is actually just being projected as so. I made a flow chart of 20 games (I didn't play them) and I didn't get the same weapon more than 3 times. I didn't get a few, but that's randomness for you.

[Techstuf]

Can't handle the cpu-10?

Just joking. I like playing against a "stacked" opponent; it'll only help you get better.


LOL....I read ya.


Stacked with good response options employed with a modicum of reliable AI is worth rising to the occasion. A worthy and engaging challenge.


However, handicapping via scoring and aiming cheats takes the fun out of wins AND losses. Really robs the appeal. Kind of like anyone over the age of 5 who still likes playing Tic Tac Toe.


It shouldn't take too many real gaming examples to plug the statistically appropriate response options in many a given situation, into the code. Would certainly do alot for playability.


But hey, online release should cure the prob.




TS

[Techstuf]

That is a plus BM, randomness to weapon selection has been virtually restored. I do notice that there seems to be a bit more redundancy than ver. 1.00B. As in more instances of 3 or 4 of the same weapon showing up in a random pick.



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[blue_moon]

Really? In V1.2? I have yet to experience triplicates, and i noly got a dulpicate once while I was paying attention. But hey, randomness is random, and by that, I mean it could churn up anything, even a complete batch of Superstars. However, getting the same pick every game is different... That would be bad. That was fixed, as far as I know. As in the a bit more redundancy than ver. 1.00B
doesn't that mean that it is repeating more than V1.2? You said in the beginning that randomness was restored. Anyway, thats it. For me, randomness is not a problem and I don't really care if it was. I like Tractor Beam...

[Techstuf]

Well, there are PT fans and there are PT fanatics.


I too like tractor beam, on that rare occasion when pulling the CPU or myself out from under a Mud Pie doesn't get me runned, gunned or stampeded.


(Like when it's the 9th shot and I've still got my Lava in my holster)


Can I get a 'YeeeHaww'?


;)


TS

[endgame]

I do know what you mean, though. Instead of ramming perfect shots down our throats every volley, the cpu needs to form offensive/defensive strategies like shooting walls in front of tanks not on top of them. :D

[Techstuf]

I agree! There is a host of simple and effective strategies to be employed which could liven the game considerably without need of that thefty handicrapper.


TS

[blue_moon]

Well, that is way easier said than done. Its basically an AI with the capability to learn. It would also need a priority list of each combo known to man, because it obviously wouldn't be able to make its own. The compiliation of that list would extend forever, I could say that there are over 1000 strategies known to me, plus there are the smaller ones that we may think "lets see, if I use scorcher the island, I'll get less points than island then scorcher, but I could use tractor beam before..." Its all subjective and as far as I know, near impossible to code. It would be a major update, which would take years.

[Techstuf]

No need for a fancified adaptive fuzzy logic AI....all I'm asking for are a few pre programmed common sense response options for even the most general of scenarios. For instance, programming the CPU to point and shoot Xrays correctly was appreciated. And, I'm guessing, an unformidable task. Give us a couple of dozen of those kinds of logical decisions, unplug the handicrapper and a genuine upgrade is born.


Its all subjective and as far as I know


I am, somewhat regrettably, in no position to disagree



TS

[blue_moon]

Ahh... I thought you meant to program actual strategies that we use, but more along the lines of "I could get a clear shot this way if Flak isn't there, but I am shooting anyways" kind of logic. I don't think they count for wind either, or not well. I played a game on the new version with wind and the CPU shot a shot and it wne tbackwards and hit a wall.

[???revived]

What are you [Techstuf] talking about? (not aggressively in any way). The only differences I see between this AI and the one from 1.00β are that the AI now moves when in a difficult position to fire and that it fires line-of-sight and digging weapons correctly. Are there any changes besides those that I'm unaware of?

Do you [Techstuf] mean, as Demyx said, that the computer has a tendency to perfectly shoot through Flak? I've seen that tons of times before in 1.00β...

By the way, you [Techstuf] should write poetry or something. That sort of language seems alien on a forum (no offense in any way to anybody)...

[Pyrobellum]

Bah! Randomness is not restored! I get the same 7 sets of weapons repeated to me over and over again. Then again, there's still no 1.2 for mac. BLARG!

[VoLAN]

What will be if Saucer attack crash/hit in Great Wall? It explode or what?
I'm just interesting.

[Techstuf]

By the way, you [Techstuf] should write poetry or something. That sort of language seems alien on a forum


I don't get it either. Maybe it IS alien as your observation seems to be the consensus. Whatever it is....it's me.


As for the varied results some of us experience with each new release, maybe it's simply as Brian said that Mike said....different CPUs...yadda yadda.


TS

[blue_moon]

It does seem a little alien to this forum though, maybe you should write in a little less poetic/scholarly manner.
@Volan: it does explode if it hits dirt, and will do 250 damage
@Revived: its blue_moon... Not Demyx!
@Pyrobellum: I know you want Mac V1.1/2, but I feel it is not necessary to put that in every post

[???revived]

Demyx rolls off the tongue better, your previous avatar I really disliked, and whenever I think 'blue moon' I think of Advance Wars...

[Everlast]

And, Yellow Comet, and Green Earth, and Black Hole, and Orange Star. :)

[Techstuf]

It does seem a little alien to this forum though, maybe you should write in a little less poetic/scholarly manner.



Duly noted. Or should I say, "it's all good".





TS

[endgame]

Or should I say, "it's all good".
TS

Proper grammar still applies!

"It's all good."

;) :rolleyes: :D

[Techstuf]

Uh, like, I was partially quoting that normal talkin guy who originated the phrase, in midsentence.


Duh!


:shocked:


TS

[endgame]

:confused: :D

[Techstuf]

Thou didst perplexeth me as well.


(insert small obligatory lol here)


TS

[Brian]

Techstuf, (I need to be careful typing your name, lest I make a rather rude mistake) I understand that Mike hasn't given the same level of attention to the AI as many players would have wanted. The problem, really, is a simple one: he never expected people would be playing against the computer. He put it in as a last minute concession to one person play when a second person wasn't available. Thus, AI has never been foremost on his mind when considering Pocket Tanks. One could say, therefore, that network play is always where he has wanted to take the game. Indeed, the rough beast of netplay is slouching toward this Bethlehem. It's hour has not come, but it grows closer.

[Techstuf]

Techstuf, (I need to be careful typing your name, lest I make a rather rude mistake)


Too much coffee today? Pay no nevermind, I'll answer to almost anything.


;)


The problem, really, is a simple one: he never expected people would be playing against the computer.



Well, one can't rush perfection....and considering PT has been out for years, I'm sure the "rough beast" will continue slouching all the way to Masada if it has to in order to reach the original goal.



:anirolleyes:



Patience is a virtue.......they say.




:)




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[yen0652]

I love how technical all the wording has become in this forum...

When did it turn into an english class?

Aaaaaaaaaaaanywho...I dont find any randomness issues in v1.2, infact, i am quite content with how the new upgrade went, just have to wait for network play now

oh well...Mike and Brian have done a great job with this game and keeping us up to date, so thank you to you both! keep the great games coming

*applauds*

[Malice913150]

Ya people should stop pirating.

And people SHOULD NOT put pocket tanks 1.2 and the tornado pack up on a torrent site. I REPEAT SHOULD NOT!!! ;)

old quote but whatever. 1.2 has already been uploaded somewhere lol. wasnt by me tho cuz i already had that update. i'm sure someone will get the tornado pack up soon.

<boring opinion> pirating is crappy in its own way, but sometimes people dont have the money to buy these games and just want to enjoy them. indeed there are many who just dont wanna pay anyways but still. </boring opinion>

btw, i am content with 1.2. i like the fact the weapons dont end on the bottom of the screen. that always annoyed me. i just wanna know whats so cool about the tornado pack that you needed an update rofl

[???revived]

I just wanna know whats so cool about the tornado pack that you needed an update rofl

It has aesthetically pleasing smoke effects and some other stuff that need 1.2 to run properly...

[ekoz]

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IICCCCCCCCCCCCC
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
these packs are great! and v 1.2 has really good graphics! i can wait for the new weapon packs!

[Everlast]

There won't be new packs for a while since they just came out with 2.

[Brian]

Anyone who sees Pocket Tanks (Deluxe, not shareware) or weapons packs being distributed somewhere and is bothered by this can either PM me with the address or email it to me at brian@blitwise.com. I do my best to take care of these things.

[Slade]

Like pirated software?

[Everlast]

Anyone who sees Pocket Tanks (Deluxe, not shareware) or weapons packs being distributed somewhere and is bothered by this can either PM me with the address or email it to me at brian@blitwise.com. I do my best to take care of these things.

Ok, cool, I had sent you a list of of websites before, but found more recently.

[snwbrdr113]

any word on when the mac versions of these two packs come out?
sorry if this was already asked...
couldnt find it

[John Brooks]

I have 1.2! It's amazing! And the expansion pack are DA BOMB!

[Brian]

I have it on good authority that CTSP is working hard on the missing updates and getting the new expansion packs out, as well as Neon Wars for Mac. Progress is being made.

[Feronat]

I got both packs, but I have to wait for V1.2. This stinks. Anyway, I sent Brian an email for it, so I will get it tomorrow!

Hey do you really have tornado pack?Please send me a download link.PLease.

[Feronat]

I got both packs, but I have to wait for V1.2. This stinks. Anyway, I sent Brian an email for it, so I will get it tomorrow!

Hey do you really have tornado pack?Please send me a download link on hm3feronat@yahoo.com please do this.I'll be more than happy to help you and tell you secrets.

[Feronat]

Hey do you really have tornado pack?Please send me a download link at hm3feronat@yahoo.com please do this.I'll be more than happy to help you and tell you secrets.

[blue_moon]

Dude, calm down. Just buy it. Its only eight dollars. Besides, pirating is against my policy and this is Bltiwise's forum. In case you don't know, its the company that made PTanks. Also, its illegal to pirate software. If you can afford a computer, you can afford that.

[VoLAN]

Feronat IDIOT

[XRaiderV1]

$8 dollars, and so worth every last single red cent, according to a friend of mine(he bought me the expansons for xmas last year!)

[blue_moon]

Actually, pennies are bronzish, and which did he buy? Yes, they are worth it.

[Samail]

Copper, actually...

And I've got it all figured out with the magic of multiplication. To purchase everything BlitWise has to offer at the moment:

$103.09 US
$107.77 CA

I need $73.75 for the rest of my collection. (Which I have. Just debating with myself what to do first...)

So Feronat, there you go. And that's to buy everything. It's only 8 dollars for one pack. (15 weapons or 30 boards)

[VoLAN]

How about new weapon packs? Wassup with it?

[blue_moon]

Erm... They are working on online play. Its been all over the board that they are prioritizing online play over weapons, but they are next though.

[Rex Nex]

*secretly keeps working on HACKYTANKS that can have imported weapon scripts in it. You just need the knowledge to make em*
EHEM sorry clearing my throut

[ekoz]

stop joking like that. your scaring the children.

[XRaiderV1]

seriously not funny.